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  • Angry Paul Nodder, cunt.

  • From today's Scum...
    What type of thick cunt is this 'one over the taxman' kind of spin meant to appeal to?
    Double standard much?
    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thesu­n.co.uk/news/3711659/sun-investigation-s­uper-rich-tax-relief-scheme/amp/


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  • because Sun readers are Rupert Murdoch's useful idiots.

  • ^actualol

  • Is this the UK version of the US presidential strategy of "start a war so people are on the side of the government"? "Talk about military power"?

  • Saudi mobile app that provides access to a lot of government digital services also allows men to track women, set limits on their travel and generate alerts if they leave the country.

  • Terrorist would like to return to UK and 'has no regrets' joining IS
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47229181

  • ^ Terrorist supporter might be more accurate. I don't think she's actually killed anyone has she?

  • Or perhaps "wife of terrorist".

  • The whole situation is very complicated for sure. She didn't become a terrorist's wife by accident after all. She apparently holds some pretty horrible views and has clearly made some awful decisions, not least of all trying to raise two children in a war zone. How much blame you can attribute to her versus the many people who have been influencing her I don't know.

    I can't say I'd be happy to see her at the school gate, but I'm not sure it could be considered justice to ban her from the UK either.

  • She'll be a target for the mad, sad and bad from the likes of IS and the EDL if she comes back.

  • I don't think she's banned? But she might not be helped to come home.
    A lot of teenagers want a cause, glory and/or infamy. Thankfully most of them don't act on it (or get distracted by food/shoes/sex/music/booze until dull adulthood.)

  • Teenagers do utterly stupid pig headed things. That's what they do.

  • She's still only 19. I feel sorry for her. 3 friends from school. They could've just run off for the day and got inappropriate piercings or something.

  • I feel sorry for her.

    Yeah. It's not the happiest story, is it.

  • Two dead kids at 19 :(

  • I suspect that female is a terrorist. Did I happen to see her carrying two shopping bags in one hand and an AK47 in the other on the news this morning? Only caught a quick glimpse of the AK.

  • How much blame you can attribute to her versus the many people who have been influencing her I don't know.

    I can't say I'd be happy to see her at the school gate, but I'm not sure it could be considered justice to ban her from the UK either.

    You can acknowledge that she is a product of the external factors / influence, while still thinking that there is a point at which you have to accept responsibility for you actions.

    The reality is that she will likely be jailed and the child will end up in care.

    Intellectually, the question is whether becoming a citizen of ISIS has revoked her British Citizenship? My understanding is that legally in the UK you can have dual citizenship without applying for it, therefore, there can be no restriction on her right to return, or upon returning the rights of her child.

    A good analogy would be RIO pre-independence and Scotland now. Should pro-indy people have a right to English+Welsh citizenship if they support breakaway from the Union? If so, then is it specifically the violence and criminality which ends her citizenship?

  • I think it has been made clear that the kids who went to Syria to support ISIS will be treated as victims as long as they didn't commit a terrorism offence there. Whatever that means.

  • Did I happen to see her carrying two shopping bags in one hand and an AK47 in the other on the news this morning? Only caught a quick glimpse of the AK.

    Does carrying a rifle in a conflict zone = a terrorist?

    I can understand the argument that:

    1. ISIS = a terrorist group
    2. willing participation in an ISIS community = membership of a terrorist group
    3. membership of a terrorist group = terrorist


  • As I understood it the challenge is because she is now an adult. But maybe I've miss-read the story.

  • She seems to be prepared to come back and "do whatever it takes" for the sake of the health of her next child. In care is better than dead from malnutrition and treatable disease.
    As bonkers as it might seem I can understand the "no regrets" line. She's currently in a refugee camp, 4 years after running away from a relatively comfortable home to go to a warzone, experiencing death and violence up close. I can well imagine too many regrets right now = instant disintegration. Without even rationalising it, it's likely a survival mechanism.

  • Excellently put. This was also @amey 's coping mechanism to building DBAD

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