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  • i'm sorry, but what's wrong with them stem? ^^ isn't it a bit too shiny on a pic to tell already? thou i prefer one gear, the bike looks great!

  • apart from the stem, nice. Very nice.

    Grammo is appropriate for that build, as it was Cinelli's top of the range in the C-Record era.

  • Oooooooh that Pearson is nice, damn tight.

  • Grammo is appropriate for that build, as it was Cinelli's top of the range in the C-Record era.

    I know.
    But I hate it. Its fugly to the max, along with a plethora of other stems from around that time.

  • Oooooooh that Pearson is nice, damn tight.

    thanks you, but remember there's no headset in it, and also remember those are 700 x 19 tyres!

  • thanks.

    the grammo is ok. i have a pantographed pagani stem that was planning to use on this build but it was a little too long.

  • I know.
    But I hate it. Its fugly to the max, along with a plethora of other stems from around that time.

    plethora must be your new word this week no?

  • Word of the past few months. I like Cacophony too, but not as much.

  • what about cornucopia?

  • Its fugly to the max, along with a plethora of other stems from around that time.

    Opinion varies. I like the Grammo. It's obviously doesn't have the streamlined elegance of a 1R, but it's porn the way Ti frames are porn.

    Perhaps you can give us half a dozen examples from the plethora of contemporaneous stems which you find unacceptable, so that nobody makes any further aesthetic blunders.

  • Perhaps you can give us half a dozen examples from the plethora of contemporaneous stems which you find unacceptable, so that nobody makes any further aesthetic blunders.

    we're waiting ;)

  • But I was giving my opinion on how it looks. Or is that unacceptable now?

    And I don't like any quill where the horizontally bit is more or less a triangle (big at the frame end and little at the bar end), particularly when there is a gawd awful weld. In fact, and quill that is heavy looking or very bulky isn't my cup of tea. Not that that means you can't like them if you want, although you will be wrong in doing so :P

  • hi, built this up a while back and didn't think to post it, would be quite interested in feedback, and especially in trying to find anything out about the frame. it's a winora amigo road frame. have not much more info on it, couldn't understand the german website to find any other info out so if anyone knows anything about it i'm all ears. frame was from my godfather who traded it for a painting in germany in the mid 80s, i then got it powdercoated and painted (by a place near york who stripped, powder coated and painted 2 colours for £35, called "powder and paint", think they are in east cottingwith, amazing job, amazing price). I then got wheels (tiagra + mavic cxp33s) on internet a few parts off my lbs and some off other bikes. i then attached a rack and rode (ditch + garden camping) to paris on it. sorry for the post length, and the strange saddle position is personal preference. forgive mistakes and lack of period co-ordination, when did the build i was poor and did not know anything about bikes.


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  • But I was giving my opinion on how it looks. Or is that unacceptable now?

    Far from it; we welcome your input, hence our waiting with bated breath for your pronouncement on all stems sold between 1985 and 1995, so that we can become as enlightened as you.

  • miller, I like your bike, it's a perfect bike that function exactly how you want it to be, simply making the bike work as smoothly as possible regardless of appearance/correct period part.

  • Big fan of the grammo, the font on the rubber cap is great IMO :)

    Trying to find somewhere to shot peen mine at the minute,

  • Cinelli Alter, Cinelli Frog, One of the 3TTT Mutants in particular, The Cinelli Grammo MTB version is uglier. There is another Cinelli with a big ugly grill on the front that I can't remember the name of.

    Not as many as I thought. :( Not a plethora. More like a small family :)
    The rest must be cheap ugly spin off and copies. Or I'm delirious, or wrong, or a combination.

  • Which tires are these, tubs?
    (Lovely frame BTW)

    Grammo is appropriate for that build, as it was Cinelli's top of the range in the C-Record era.

    Grammo HAS to be among the best quill stems ever. IMHO.

    I know.
    But I hate it. Its fugly to the max, along with a plethora of other stems from around that time.

    'That Era' has some of the best ever designed components. FACT! - Grammo.

    thanks.

    the grammo is ok. i have a pantographed pagani stem that was planning to use on this build but it was a little too long.

    The Grammo is fine.

    hi, built this up a while back .....blah...blah....blah..... i was poor and did not know anything about bikes.

    It's really well done, Very nice!

  • how's my phone?

    I flashed it yesterday*.

    *Yes, it got a real eye full ha ha

  • @ nuknow they are vittora zefir 19 clinchers 700 x 19 as you may have guessed by the number in the name. and cheers

  • thanks guys, didn't expect praise from the forum veterans!

  • Дякую U.Crane.

  • Дякую U.Crane.

    thank you ukraine?

  • Quill stem are flexy by natural, but the grammo is defintely the least flexible stem I've used.

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