'Stop at red' campaign

my 2 cents =

1 pence... probably less since the stock market crashed. stupid america

Reason for stopping at red lights = trackstand practice. If plenty of people watching, no handed. How funny if ALL cyclists started doing this.

This lot should get some Livestrong style wrist bands. Make the campaign into a fashion statement ;op

you're such a show-off

he doesn't really trackstand, at every set of lights within the M25, there's four dwarves in Team Condor kit who rush into the road and support the bike until he's ready to go.

magic invisible condor dwarves.

i wish i'd paid for that upgrade.

the stupid thing is the special edition Rapha ones were only another £3k

I tend to stop at reds. Then I find myself jumping them in petulance when I've been irritated at having to dodge swarms of people crossing on my green light (in the centre of town, people tend to think "well he'll just have to stop because we're all in the road", when they'd patently get out of the way of a car). Isn't partic. smart or clever.

I almost always start a couple of seconds before the light turns green, though, just to make sure that I'm moving at a reasonable speed once the cars get going. I don't accelerate as quickly as they after all.

RPM the stupid thing is the special edition Rapha ones were only another £3k

yeah, the RaphaCondor midgets are invisible except for a pink stripe up their back

if it wasn't for the booze, I might have done a little piss in my pants

instead, I did a big piss

Ha.

I pulled a wicked trackstand at a bike crossing the other day. Then tried to do a bit of backwards shizzle, and ended up whimpering in the foetal position. One to practice at home first methinks.

the-smiling-buddha ask yourself this,if a tree falls in a forest, and nobody's around, does it make a sound?

To answer the question simply define 'sound'.

If by 'sound' you mean an energy wave dissipating through the air, yes a sound is made whether someone is there or not.

If by 'sound' you mean that same energy wave hitting a person's ear drum and being converted to an electrical signal that is detected by the auditory cortex - then there would be no sound.

This question (and its variations) is often set up as some kind of deep-seated profundity, but is in fact a trivial mechanical question that relies on equivocation for it's 'mystery'.

As for the red lights, I am a consequentialist.

My prediction is that as technology becomes increasingly available and people become increasingly accepting of government incursion we will - very likely - have cameras specifically targeting cyclists at lights. Maybe.

+1 to that last bit

My God is not a rathful vengeful kitten killing God instead he is an omnipresent loving and forgiving God that turns a blind eye to the odd minor green cross code infraction

i meant the cameras thing btw

tynan This question (and its variations) is often set up as some kind of deep-seated profundity, but is in fact a trivial mechanical question that relies on equivocation for it's 'mystery'.

I think the real use of that question is that, by evoking a sense of mystery, it provokes thought in providing an answer. What is important is not the answer, but the fact that it makes people think.

all right smarty which came first the chicken or the egg?

They don't need cameras, when you go and collect your new ID card they can insert you with a RFID chip which generates an automatic fine each time you pass a red light, SOD the planet may as well buy a fucking car

the-smiling-buddha My God is not a rathful vengeful kitten killing God instead he is an omnipresent loving and forgiving God that turns a blind eye to the odd minor green cross code infraction

Omniscience and omnipresence means it is impossible for him to turn a blind eye, you are going to hell sonny Jim.

my god kills a kitten every time hippy posts... there are not many left.

not if I get to 'confession' first old bean - confession absolves me of all sin - handy that

asm [quote]I think the real use of that question is that, by evoking a sense of mystery, it provokes thought in providing an answer. What is important is not the answer, but the fact that it makes people think.

Don't get all philosophical on ma' ass ! ;P

I agree 100% that answers are often the trivial part, but in this case the set-up is so basic that the thought provoked by this crap question is pretty shallow, it is essentially a trick question, equivocation.

chris crash my god kills a kitten every time hippy posts... there are not many left.

thats funny

& true

the-smiling-buddha not if I get to 'confession' first old bean - confession absolves me of all sin - handy that

Damn you Catholics are fast, but of course you're truly fucked when Shiva finds out.

it was very serious thought provoking question, if you go through a red light and no -one sees, its like you never went through that red light at all