Full carbon forks - pros and cons?

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  • Disc only I'm afraid, but thanks for pointing out...

  • I'd be careful to check your desired trail before ordering, a steep head tube angle (75deg) with a long rake fork is not a nice combo.

    For a road friendly 47mm trail you most likely want a 41mm rake fork. A 43mm rake would give you 45mm of trail if you want quicker handling.

    A good selection.
    http://www.fatbirds.co.uk/store.asp/d=9/c=40

  • As per usual, fantastic advice Mr. Furry. Still trying to get my head around trail and rake and how the two affect each other and what I prefer. I've been reading Dave Moulton's blog, any other hints? Thanks...

  • Do they *really *improve road buzz? Any advice is well taken...

    Over a nice steel fork?, not really in my experience.

    I would keep the Bareknuckle fork as it was made for the frame and looks good too. You do get a good weight saving going from steel to full carbon but the road buzz comfort thing is not noticeable to me.

  • Might be of help...might not. pffft.

    http://www.bustedcarbon.com/

  • going from steel to full carbon but the road buzz comfort thing is not noticeable to me.

    Thanks, was never too sure how far the carbon really affected comfort, especially on a nippy track bike on London roads...

  • Thanks, was never too sure how far the carbon really affected comfort, especially on a nippy track bike on London roads...

    For pure comfort on bumpy bad roads, you cant beat a quality steel fork IMHO.

    Good carbon forks are lighter and stiffer wher it counts, while still absorbing vibrations from the rough roads.

    So basically choose carbon to drop some weight, but not if all you want is more comfort, is my opinion.

    I'd start buy accessing my tyre chioce, and truing my front wheel. But the straight nature of the bareknuckle fork doesnt look too forgiving.

  • Also if the Bareknuckle has a 1" threaded headset, you will not be able to fit a full carbon fork without swapping the headset for threadless.

  • I have this model on my bike, different colour though. Bought it new off ebay for half the retail price. Its meant for integrated headsets so leaves a tiny gap if the frame is not designed for integrated, but its hardly noticeable and certainly doesn't bother me. Has really made a difference to ride quality (less vibrations through the hands) and is very light. Would recommend for sure.

  • pros- ridiculously light, stiff and great to ride.
    cons- expensive

  • Only a hundred notes too.
    http://www.planet-x-warehouse.co.uk/acatalog/info_FOPXSTSERE.html
    Would'nt describe 445g as very light for a full carbon fork though ;)

  • on a vaguely related note, can you get away with riding down steps and things with carbon forks (steel steerer) without them breaking?not proper tricks, but If i'm getting them, I want to be able to rag them bit.

  • Thanks for the suggestions all. The Bareknuckle is a 1 1/8 so no headset issues there, fork is ok as is but was simply exploring how to improve the ride quality without reducing core quickness (thicker tyres, etc)

    Obviously I realise that running 23s doesn't help but it sounds like a fork could be one way of helping ride quality...

  • get better tyres and learn to spin your legs faster or a carbon post if your getting lots of vibrations up your arse

  • Only a hundred notes too.
    http://www.planet-x-warehouse.co.uk/acatalog/info_FOPXSTSERE.html
    Would'nt describe 445g as very light for a full carbon fork though ;)

    Not for weight weenies. As an upgrade from a beastman steel fork it felt very light to me...

  • get better tyres.....

    totally agree with that,. You will notice much more of a difference between tyres than from steel to carbon fork. Could also get 25s without affecting performance, in fact they would probably roll better but that is a another debate!

  • 4 seasons FTW

  • 25c 4 season is the best all-rounder indefinitely, reasonably comfortable but still fast.

  • Thanks for the suggestions all. The Bareknuckle is a 1 1/8 so no headset issues there, fork is ok as is but was simply exploring how to improve the ride quality without reducing core quickness (thicker tyres, etc)

    Obviously I realise that running 23s doesn't help but it sounds like a fork could be one way of helping ride quality...

    Something like this?
    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/eXotic-Carbon-Monocoque-Race-Fork-Only-349gm-uncut_W0QQitemZ200439275193QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_sportsleisure_cycling_bikeparts_SR?hash=item2eab1c9eb9
    42mm rake so should compliment the frame.
    Exotic MTN carbon forks are popular and get good reviews.
    Made for integrated headset though, so the fork crown will be slightly wider than the bottom of your headset (purely asthetic problem).

    Not for weight weenies. As an upgrade from a beastman steel fork it felt very light to me...

    Its not that heavy really. Full carbon aero forks are often over 400g, and a lot of alu steerer carbon fork approach the 600g mark ;)

  • 25c 4 season is the best all-rounder indefinitely, reasonably comfortable but still fast.

    +1 used on the front all winter. no punctures. fast and grippy

  • get better tyres and learn to spin your legs faster or a carbon post if your getting lots of vibrations up your arse

    Ha ha, nothing doing in the ass region (can't believe I'm saying this on a public forum), it's more for buzz on the hands. I run Vittorio Rubino Pros, unlikely to get 25s in on the Bareknuckle, clearance is very tight even with 23s.

  • FWIW I had a Bareknuckle a couple of years back and I actually found it very comfortable and wouldn't have even thought about changing the forks (especially as the Bareknuckle forks look really good too!)

    I do remember the very tight fork clearance now you mention it though...

  • Carbon's a bit of an interest of mine. Well alternative and exotic materials as a whole really

    i have a pair of forks made out of unicorn horn

  • I've been using an ITM visia fork on my bike for roughly three years now. The reason for getting it was because it had a brake mount - that's it.

    However, despite looking anti on an otherwise nice bike, it adds a nice feel to the bikes ride characteristics.

    Strength-wise, you shouldn't have to worry unless you weight 20 stone or crash badly. Carbon is really fucking tough but it can break. Eg: My ex-manager from work had a ski-pole (of all things) go through his spokes whilst travelling about 15mph. The fork legs snapped clean in half but didn't even bust a spoke. Obviously he was pretty badly hurt but got some nice shiny ec90's and some new wheels in the pay-off.

    So basically, unless some guy in a park on ski's-with-wheels sticks his pole in your front wheel, you should just-about be ok.

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