Lance Armstrong... greatest doper there was or ever will be

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  • revmilo Does a sporting robot maketh a god? Schumaker? Sampras? Armstrong?
    Obllox! All acts of life, including athletic ones, should exhibit a certain flair or artistry. To win is dull, to inspire is ALL!

    I'm guessing you've not read his book either..

    He inspired me.

  • nv55 there's no way you can win without doping.

    Lance never tested positive.

    I agree with Revmilo about artistry - in spectator sports you want to see something exciting. I loved watching Pantani.

    Yeah and Pantani was doped to the gills and died of a cocaine overdose.. great to watch.. until he self destructs.

  • hippy [quote]nv55 Yeah and Pantani was doped to the gills.

    Pantani was a FISH? So women DO need men after all...

  • It's a phrase my old man used.. "doped to the eyeballs" is more common but (insert alternative lifestyle discussion here) ;)

  • Hate him of course - the real cycling heroes should be european, riding european bicycles, and win other races as well not only the TdF!

  • To win TdF seven times is a phenomenal achievement especially after his illness. So as a cyclist, he is a legend. But as a person, I've no idea obviously.

    I'm going to read his book once I've got through the pile of books I've not read yet...

  • Roberto Hate him of course - the real cycling heroes should be european, riding european bicycles, and win other races as well not only the TdF!

    hahaha :)

  • I stuggled with this one for a while, but basically came to the conclusion that whatever field someone is successful in and famous for, then that's all they should be judged on. The fact is that whether it's sport, politics, music, whatever, if you're to really succeed and get to the top of your game you have to be unbelievably driven and in a lot of cases that probably reflects your personality - dedicated, introverted, might seem like an arsehole to other people. But at the end of the day that doesn't matter if you're that set on achieving your goals rather than simply achieving fame for fame's sake.
    Obviously I have no discernable talent, but if I had a constant barrage of people I didn't know asking me things etc then I expect I'd come off looking like a jerk.

    Having said that, weren't the cyclists interviewed after the tour today a frickin miserable bloody bunch???

  • hippy [quote]revmilo Does a sporting robot maketh a god? Schumaker? Sampras? Armstrong?
    Obllox! All acts of life, including athletic ones, should exhibit a certain flair or artistry. To win is dull, to inspire is ALL!

    I'm guessing you've not read his book either..

    He inspired me.[/quote]

    I was out on the bike for four hours today as a direct consequence of reading a book about Armstrong and the tour just before this tour. It sounds mad but I am an inner city boy & I ride a sprint bike because generally I ride thirty minutes at a time in a succession of sprints. Four hours in the saddle is a very long time for me.

  • hippy [quote]wayne_f14 did he achieve amazing feats- undoubtedly
    but do i aspire to be an egomaniacal bully, nah.
    so for me cycling legend yes, hero no.

    Do you honestly think you can get to the top of such a hard sport without having a somewhat enlarged sense of self? Did you listen to Cancellara's intro comments to this year's Tour?
    Most people at the top of their chosen 'game' are self-centred. They have to be, otherwise they are not putting their all into the task at hand. Ego? Maybe, but it's perhaps necessary.

    Have you read It's Not About the Bike? You'll find quite a few people think he's a hero.
    On bike forums you'll find people either love him or hate him.[/quote]

    It like saying muhammed ali was a great fighter but he would have been my hero if only he had had more humility.

  • I was out on the bike for four hours today as a direct consequence of reading a book about Armstrong and the tour just before this tour. It sounds mad but I am an inner city boy & I ride a sprint bike because generally I ride thirty minutes at a time in a succession of sprints. Four hours in the saddle is a very long time for me.

    o man that's me all over, we have to race soon..

  • le car
    Now if you mention Mark Gonzales

    I can relate more.
    Or Chris Haslam

    for a modern touch.

    Not exactly apples with apples, le car. But a great choice of skaters. (I'd add Tony T for his pool/concrete skills)

    Hawk, Reynolds, Sheckler - who's the Armstrong of skating? (It'd be Danny Way but for the fact he doesn't act like he invented the sport).

  • lpg [quote]I was out on the bike for four hours today as a direct consequence of reading a book about Armstrong and the tour just before this tour. It sounds mad but I am an inner city boy & I ride a sprint bike because generally I ride thirty minutes at a time in a succession of sprints. Four hours in the saddle is a very long time for me.

    o man that's me all over, we have to race soon..[/quote]

    but your like really young and reckless and I am kinda old an wiley I think you'd have to give me a head start ...;)

  • brett

    Having said that, weren't the cyclists interviewed after the tour today a frickin miserable bloody bunch???

    I thought that!

    I know journos can be twats, but at least be civil or say nothing at all?
    Cadel evans was a complete little prick, so up himself.

    There's a lot of people watching, aspiring, looking for inspiration. A little humilty doesn't hurt but goes such a long way

  • lpg lol, wiley

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=KJJW7EF5aV­k

    yeah something like that, do you get that thing when someone overtakes you, that you just can't stand it, and then you have to race them like for about five miles or something stupid like that

  • All fscking week i've been doing that.. I'm frickin trashed!

    Anyone know who rides a blue Merlin with yellow rims? He punctured in front of me today..
    And what's with 17:10? Is this the hour of the courier? Every bastard and his radio was out while I drunkrode home..

  • to be top / no.1 in anything ; life, career, cycling you have to have that arrogant bmw / merc drivers attitude to life
    fuck all of ya's i'm the best

  • Only if i've got energy and i'm on my bareknuckle. then they don't stand a chance - rite ;)? Lately my energy levels have dropped...i think it's because i've been using a really spinny gear for the past month or so, i'm more of a gear grinder at heart.. who knows? Today, a brompton cyclist passed me .. i didn't mind.

  • No way dicki! I'm the b-b-bestest!!

  • lpg Today, a brompton cyclist passed me .. i didn't mind.

    Don't ever admit to that.. especially not on a public forum!!

  • I can't let anyone past, if they do go past then I just jump all the traffic lights, ride through the park, do whatever it takes, I know all the junctions & most of the lights, I am 43 years old and I am ashamed of myself

  • If someone goes past cos they've got a better run at lights etc then I don't mind, if someone goes past due to just being faster, I get the red mist and chase (or dismiss them a geared cheater)
    I aint that fast but you've got to take whatever challenges present themselves to you, makes it more fun.

  • I pass everyone

    mostly. ;)

  • hippy I pass everyone

    mostly. ;)

    but are you law abiding

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