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  • I've done The Dave Yates course and couldn't recomend it enough, amazing week and came out with a bike I was really pleased with. Dave was a metal work teacher in Schools before he was a frame builder and it shows, he's not only a very good framebuilder but excellent teacher too and takes such care and attention over you building the frame that it would be hard to go wrong.

    Don't know anything about the Swallow

    I would not go on the Downland Cycles one, I met someone who's mate had gone on it, they were told on the course that since it was their first frame it wouldn't be very well brazed and wouldn't last that long and it didn't! Mines 5 years old and going strong with many hard miles on it from a large rider too!


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