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any reference for the 4130 point?
i asked tony to weld mine with a lighter tubeset normally used for tonic's cx-bikes and the 58-ish frame weighed exactly 1,8 kg. the main tubes are certainly not 4130 chromo as i've ridden many bikes built with these tubes as well.
not to say 4130 frames are not good or anything.