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There is probably lots on the forum already about this so if someone could point me to the relevant threads then thanks!
If not then I have about 500 odd pounds to spend on a frame fancied getting one built so I can get the colour I want with with a new frame etc etc. Both BLB and 14 offer custon built frames at similar prices.
I have spent money in both shops and do no have a problem with either for the record, I have to say that 14 seemed more enthusastic and I like that there frames are British made.