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a MrsSmyth could have written my post, and it's not an instruction but an observation/ suggestion :-)
i use those undershort padded short things (sugoi) when i need to be sociably acceptable and they are o.k but not as good as a proper bib on longer rides.
i tried those coolmax grey things and they were a waste of time, i think they are just re-branded incontinence pants.