Fahgettaboudit Lock Holder

Dammit, I doubt such a comparison is available. But, having familaised myself with what each lock offers, I think this may be a reasonable guestimate:

***Interesting fact I just found out, is that the Onguard Brute Mini is a fully 18mm lock, ***
whereas the Onguard Brute STD (standard), and Onguard Brute LS (Long shackle) are both 16.8mm locks.

Therefore, the Onguard Brute Mini is a direct competitor to the Kryptonite New York Fahgettaboudit Mini. Both are short shackle locks of 18mm bar diameter.

The Fahg Mini is made of specially hardened steel, as is the Brute Mini, but I would wager that the Fahg Mini is the stronger. That said, the X4 technology of the Brutes, means that the bar is effectively locked at 4 points, meaning it would take 2 seperate cuts to open the lock. The 16mm Abus Granite Extreme 59, is square tapered, and locks at two points, again, forcing 2 cuts before it is properly opened.

I'd then say, that if the Brute Mini X4 can be found in the UK, then I'd recommend it. Though the Fahg Mini takes 3 minutes to cut, I should think that the Brute Mini X4 would take that time or more, especially considering that it requires 2 cuts.

However, the Fahg Mini has the best reputation amongst bike locks, and most bike thieves would rather not ruin their disks on their portable angle grinders, and try something that looks less formidable.

Kryptonite New York Fahgettaboudit Mini - 2.09kgs / 4.61lbs
Onguard Brute Mini X4 - 2.05kgs / 4.52lbs

Nothing in it really.

literally exactly what i was going to post. Both are 10 tonne 18mm locks, but the 4 point locking mech on the Brute is *supposedly *superior to both the Fah and the Fah Mini.

i had no idea they made a Fah Mini to begin with, however... I'll admit ignorance on that point. ANyway, that wasn't what this thread was started about. I stand by the assertion that the full sized Fah is dumb as nails especially when these minis exist. Minis are better anyway in general because you can't fit tools in there as easily.

and as a final statement. almost any lock is effective against a junky. and literally no lock is effective against a pro or your own stupidity. I'd still ride a piece of shittte I can basically lock up with a length of rope over all the pther hoopla discussed in this thread.