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people keep bandying about this £250 figure for full builds.
how does that work?
let's say cheap and shit as it gets:
frame - £70 (i.e the Bob J i got off ebay, not the Bob J i got off Bob J, which costs £340, or £400 depending where you get it)
stem - £10 (cheapo moser i got from a box, not the cinelli that cost £20)
bars - £15 (old alux madisons, not criteriums or nitto)
BB - £15 (miche, not centaur or anythign slightly better)
wheelset - £120 (OTP, and cheap even then, most people don't build wheels)
seatpost - £10 (cheap alloy thing)
saddle - £20 (not a rolls, or regal, or brooks, a veritable assripper)
brake caliper - £15 (not a 105)
lever - £15 (dirty harry)
cable bits - £5
bar tape - £5 (not cinelli cork or fatwrap, nasty stuff)
chainring - £20 (somethign mega shit, certainly not campag or sugino)
cranks - £50 (see above)
pedals - £10
even if you come in cheaper on the drivetrain, this £250 is a bit of a myth, and bikes sold for that are generally sold at a loss to the chap/lady who put it together.