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Geometry is such a huge factor. I've had a Pinnacle Arkose for several years and it's been such a useful commuter/dad/off road bike. However, the geometry makes every single ride boring.
Contrast it to my Fairlight Secan where every single off road leaves me beaming. It's not even a weight thing as I'm sure the steel Secan is heavier than the aluminium Arkose.
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I couldn't get on with my Straggler either. I built it pretty light, was pretty fit at the time and it was just so boring. The fork wasn't great either. Saying so the fit was spot on, I usually ride a 56, went for a 54 and used 20mm more spacers than I usually would: job done. On the mid table sizes the geo is only bad if you insist on slamming the stem. IMHO.
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@BunkMoreland
I feel less lonely reading this.
I've been trying to fall in love with my carbon endurance road bike, a Look optimum 765 plus, after a decade of steel and a bit of alloy here and there.
After one year of consistent riding, it still feels like a boring piece of plastic. The color is super nice but that's basically it...
Maybe it's the geometry that's too boring for me, idk...
Had this happen with a Surly straggler too, bought the frame and built it as a fancy commuter. Sold it after 3 rides. Felt heavy and didn't like the weird geometry
Same shit with a specialized langster pro.