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  • Yes, meeting with fascists to share top tips about immigration is definitely Good and Normal

    Instead you would do what? Just ignore one of the big 4, the one with the the massive fuck off coast line where >150k migrants p/a enter.

    All at a time where we're trying to rebuild relationships with Europe. Post Brexit we are in such an unbelievably weak position. It's a testiment to how ingrained British exceptionalism is, that even now you have voices on the left who take it as a given.

    IMHO if Britain, France and Germany had been thoughtful and taken Italy's concerns seriously 15yrs ago Meloni wouldn't be in power today. But we are where we are, so we've got to make lemonade.

  • Instead you would do what? Just ignore one of the big 4

    Boy is this some false dichotomy.

    I guess it's just the way it goes though. You go to Germany, you discuss trade. You go to Belguim, you discuss EU policy. You go to Italy, you discuss how much you love drowning poor people out at sea. Those are your only options.

  • you discuss how much you love drowning poor people out at sea.

    Now who's the false dichotomy?

  • Well no. Italy actually seems to have made progress on stopping the number of crossings attempted by making deals and investments with/in north African coastal countries.

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