Modern Vitus, nothing to do with ancien Vitus

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nick_h.

Pinarello is a prime example and most other brands in some form or another

Thanks, I see what you mean https://bikebiz.com/when-is-a-pinarello-not-a-pinarello-when-it-is-a-chinarello/amp/

edit: here's more. My question is 5 years out of date https://bikebiz.com/cream-competent-or-cowboy-which-factories-are-faking-it/

Which Western brands source carbon frames in the West? There's Parlee, which builds them in house, with their own moulds. Probably a huge amount of money down the toilet compared to using Pinarello's supplier. Any others?

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dinosaur in reply to @nick_h.

time and look. some looks (including mine I think) are made in North Africa (does that count as the west? certainly not east) but the rest are France. you tube has nice videos of time frames being made in france

do the Italian brands not make their highest end frames in Europe?

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nick_h. in reply to @dinosaur

do the Italian brands not make their highest end frames in Europe?

Apparently Colnago makes the C series in-house. The V series is sourced from Taiwan https://archive.ph/PyKkT

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