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time and look. some looks (including mine I think) are made in North Africa (does that count as the west? certainly not east) but the rest are France. you tube has nice videos of time frames being made in france
do the Italian brands not make their highest end frames in Europe?
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I’ve heard from a couple former employees of three local bike brands that their frames are mostly shipped from china, they just build them up over here etc. a few of the flagship ones are made here but hundreds are sent over from Asia.
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Thanks, I see what you mean https://bikebiz.com/when-is-a-pinarello-not-a-pinarello-when-it-is-a-chinarello/amp/
edit: here's more. My question is 5 years out of date https://bikebiz.com/cream-competent-or-cowboy-which-factories-are-faking-it/
Which Western brands source carbon frames in the West? There's Parlee, which builds them in house, with their own moulds. Probably a huge amount of money down the toilet compared to using Pinarello's supplier. Any others?