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Thanks joepud01 and @tb55.
As well as being oversized around the waist, are they long in the leg too?
The Albion sizing guide for these is not that helpful. I’m 1.86m, 81kg. Usually take a 34 waist and 33 or 34” leg in jeans. Given what you have said I am dithering between M and L.
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I do. I wear them with just bibs underneath either winter or summer bibs depending on how cold it gets. Ended up sizing down as the waist is pretty big. Worth the money though.