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  • Anyway, the greatest single obstacle to vastly reducing car journeys in an urban environment is the poor quality of public transport

    I realise this is going to be an unpopular position, but I actually think the public transport system in London is pretty good. Remarkable in fact.

  • I think that is fair comment. But it isn't good enough to replace all car journeys for people who don't feel safe cycling, which is what we need.

  • it isn't good enough to replace all car journeys for people who don't feel safe cycling

    Presumably, all those people who are driving because they don't feel safe cycling, don't feel safe cycling because of all the people driving.

    Makes my head hurt.

  • But it isn't good enough

    And there lies the issue of legislative change vs out-woking(?) between consumers.

    We can 'other' each other with SUV driver vs non SUV driver etc.

    But I guess in 2021 there should be SOME consciousness built into what/how you consume.

    Sadly this is the general public.

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