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  • That’s because cheap carbon frames are cheaper to make than nice alloy frames at the same price point. And to most consumers, the carbon frame seems more premium and exotic.

    Give me an £800 alloy frame over an £800 carbon frame any day of the week.

    When utilized properly, aluminum or scandium are wonderful materials to make a frame out of.

  • TBF I "upgraded" my Palace R to a premium carbon frame and it doesn't feel that much of an improvement. A few hundred grams saved but the alloy one was just as fast.
    Mid range premium alloy road bikes were the best performers for the money, good cabled groupset, rim brakes and decent wheels and you have a race worthy bike for maybe 2 grand. Now you need to spend 3 times that. Sad times.

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