Thanks, looking at them in more detail now.
Does anyone have an opinion/experience of whether 15D is fit for purpose? The Naturehike website claims the following which seems to be more 'waterproof' than MSR of Alpkit, but I assume it's not officially verified or that simple.
Tent fly: 15D Nylon(3500mm waterproof index)
cloud up 3 is the obvious choice, altho the single entrance/exit might annoy some
the mongar 3 is slightly cheaper, two doors, for 40% more weight
as always buy through aliexpress with confidence and read the buyer's reviews
15D is absolutely fine, too thin for a groundsheet obviously but great for tent/tarp walls/roofs
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