• This is worth a read.
    There's some bits I think "I'm not sure that comparison works there" but the main point is the whitewash of dance music.

    Which if you'd have been unfortunate enough to be at the afters with me some point from 1998 - 2002 I might have banged on about. With all the other white people I was off my face with.

    But this speaks to the point that cultural appropriation happens, and that you think you're an ok person but you've contributed because you're part of it and once commercialisation steps in then. Well. all bets are off.
    It's horrible, you start off interested in a bit of music and it's very easy to fetishize the cultural bits around it.
    I think the bit I find difficult is that in Manchester the jockey slut/bugged out group of people put on some really good things which recognised the importance of Detroit and black musicians.

    What I remember is that while I may have seen lots of black djs playing black music, the events I went to were pretty white (almost exclusively really).

    Bit rambly. Sorry.

  • I'll be honest, while some of the content is interesting I feel like that needs to be rewritten or heavily edited by someone else. It reads like someone's had one too many coffees.

    My probably very blinkered view is that regardless of Detroit roots of dance music I see a large part of the serious development and springboarding into the mainstream of that whole category of music in its widest sense as being a UK thing (not to take away from places like Berlin and Ibiza).

    I wasn't massively into house when I was young* and the techno I listened to was predominantly on the South East Coast ie very white areas.

    Mainly I listened to d'n b, jungle and old school. My memory of audience demographics for those genres were that they were dictated by the area. Bristol = majority black, London = evenish mix, South Coast = majority white. My memory might not be accurate, but only Nottingham springs to mind as being more white than it "should have been" based on population % - but that I'd presume is the Uni contingent and still by no means predominantly white.

    Maybe that's because those sub-genres have a more obvious and direct connection to their origins?

    *to be brutally honest I still view it more as easy listening or driving music that I associate with a modern version of the Fast Show Jazz, nice man.


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