Cheers guys - they don't look terrible but I do want to darken them a bit, gonna go over them again & get rid of all traces of the renovator that didn't really take - I have some clear saphir stuff that's really oily I might leave on them for a bit to see if that soaks in at all to give a pigmented polish something to work with, have emailed Grenson with a pic to see if they have any ideas too
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