I misunderstood this post due to post linkage confusion as that Kojima wrote Marge vs. the Monorail, which seemed hard to believe.
He didn't of course and it was Conan O'Brien but it turned out he visited Kojima's studio and they are the same age:
One has produced content that many people see as endless tedium, though a dedicated few see it as a path to enlightenment. The other produced Death Stranding.
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