• Hey thanks @andyp, good suggestions. He's done a little bit of group riding, but not really anything competitive but as you suggest these are things which he can develop more. Those are really good points and i thank you and skinny for replying. I think you both spot-on, e.g on sunday race he started in front of bunch position in neutral zone, and stayed toward the front for a bit - then he said that the road kicked up hill a bit, plus massive headwind, which then saw him spat out. I reckon that the more experienced guys probably knew what was coming and sheltered at that point.

    We'll check a few clubs locally, and see whats around for racing for his age group. Thanks again.


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