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  • The stays are 4 tubes I'm sure it'll make a big difference in terms of total frame weight.
    Otherwise if there hardly any weight difference between plain gauge or double butted why does anyone spend 1000s on top end tubing for a frame.

  • Simple maths - the bigger the dia. then the bigger weight savings for a given wall thickness (which is why it's worthwhile on the front triangle). Chainstay weight saving is nominal, seatstay is miniscule. If you really want to geek out I can send you a spreadsheet that'll show the weight savings you get for all that hard earned £

  • I'd be interested in this spreadsheet if you'll send a copy?
    Does it cover specific tubesets?
    Japanese tubesets?

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