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I find mine have been pretty good - not super stiff, but comfortable. Mine are the black version & I do get a lot of comments about how shiny they are.
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My brother has been very happy with his for the last year or so. They're also very light, which is why I wanted to try em.
PTBs and Rapha arm warmers now sold.
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Too big for me but how do you rate the LA84s? They certainly look the part as a poor mans giro empires...