• Also... lightness. It does make a difference to the feel. The whole disc + electronic does weigh more. Not significantly, but it does add up and you can feel it on long excursions.

    That sounds daft, I know. I'm not a weight weenie, but there was something the Serotta had in the way it felt that beat every other bike I tried, and I have ridden electronic and disc bikes, and recently.

    I want the magic I had, and I'm totally unconvinced changing the recipe is the way to go. Besides, all of the above cost more and I'll struggle to compromise and shave budget to get the frame I want anyway... no point wish-listing things I'm unconvinced about when it all adds more £$ and forces compromise elsewhere. The budget is £8k, for this type of bike that's not quite enough, I'll stay classic, mechanical, rim brake, clean.

  • Just be wary that modern headtube are still tapered as the choice of straight 1 1/8 steerer are getting slimmer as time go by.

    It's a Serotta, they climb amazingly regardless of weight, had ridden a sub 5.5 Canyon and it felt like it's lighter but seemed to make little difference in the climb.

  • Just be wary that modern headtube are still tapered as the choice of straight 1 1/8 steerer are getting slimmer as time go by.

    This doesn't make sense, it's a full custom with probably an Enve fork. The headtube will be what I want and won't be a huge tapered thing.

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