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So the solution would be to dismount the bike, lift it onto the pavement, walk round the red light, put the bike back on the road, remount it and continue. Alternatively, lift the bike 1 inch off the ground walk through the red light put it down again, remount it and continue.
My main point is that Crank vs Brooks doesn't make the bike disappear just because you're pushing it.
I don't know what you mean by this despite your repeating it. Of course the bike doesn't actually disappear but it does, arguably, change from being a vehicle to something else, "luggage" maybe. I'd go on the principle that until something is tested in court and found to be illegal then it remains legal (on the broad basis that everything is legal until specifically contraindicated by the law).
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So the solution would be to dismount the bike, lift it onto the pavement, walk round the red light, put the bike back on the road, remount it and continue.
I'm not sure of this one. When it has come up elsewhere some people claim that the stop line should 'obviously' extend to include the pavement.
In doing the above, and getting nabbed by the police for it, I'm sure they'd just go with an inconsiderate cycling charge.
Alternatively, lift the bike 1 inch off the ground walk through the red light put it down again, remount it and continue.
That's what The Cycling Lawyer thinks would be legal. The subsequent ride through the junction might get you an caseless/reckless/dangerous/inconsiderate cycling charge though.
I don't know what you mean by this despite your repeating it. Of course the bike doesn't actually disappear but it does, arguably, change from being a vehicle to something else, "luggage" maybe.
I'm saying the bike remains as 'a vehicle being propelled', which is then specifically worded for in other laws.
The whole 'propelling a vehicle' clause is there to combat the silly ways you think you could get away with RLJ-ing, even in cars. Does 'driving' include:-
- Having the engine running (e.g. get away with it by turning the ignition off and coasting through the red light)
- Having the keys in the ignition (e.g. getting out and pushing the car past the stop line)
- Even being in the vehicle (e.g. slowing down enough, engine off, jumping out and letting the car coast across the stop line and then jumping back in).
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- Having the engine running (e.g. get away with it by turning the ignition off and coasting through the red light)
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Sorry, yes, it is the same offence then. But no-one is ever going to get charged for it so it's meaningless.
The "propelling the vehicle" argument is a contentious one and until it's actually tested in court then it's just conjecture.
My main point is that Crank vs Brooks doesn't make the bike disappear just because you're pushing it.
Martin Porter (The Cycling Lawyer) believes that it's against the law to dismount and push a bike across a stop line at a red light. He also believes that it would be OK to dismount and carry the bike across a stop line at a red light as that does not constitute 'propelling it across the line'.