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@gfk_velo thanks very much for the in depth reply, so just to clarify- my 2002/2003 shifters should be ok with a Veloce derailleur 2008 onwards?
Just to throw a curve ball in that I didn't clarify earlier - this a a 9 speed drive train (2002/2003 9 speed Veloce shifters, 9 speed Veloce cassette and 9 speed chain) + 10 speed derailleur ( I'm aware I may need to swap out the jockey wheels but was hoping to try the 10 speed ones first)
thanks again
zootsuit
For reference as we get a lot of queries about this ....
Mounting sleeves - RD-VL007 is cross compatible with RD-RE116, even though they look quite different. We have both formats in stock at this time, in any case. RD-VL007 is discontinued as a part number but the actual part is still available. RRP is £22.57 on both parts.
@zootsuit - Complete mechs / levers:-
All 10 back to 2001 is basically cross-compatible with the following caveats:
If you have any 10s RD 2001 to 2007. it'll be fine with any 10s lever but the levers with one-gear-upshift (i.e. "Escape Type" and "PowerShift") will have a reduced service life with these RDs, as the return spring in the RD is 30 - 35% stronger and the internal tachets are not designed for this load.
Record and Chorus 10s retained the same return spring as previously, post 2007.
You can use any 2001-2007, or any Chorus or Record 10s with the short-lived Centaur or Veloce UltraShift levers made from 2009 - 2011. We do not advise use of the Xenon through Centaur derailleurs made 2008 onwards with UltraShift as the reduced strength return spring does not always allow a clean sift, as these levers use the return spring tension as a helper in rotating the lever index mechanism. Campagnolo did make a "special" version of the 2009/10 Veloce and Centaur RDs with a stronger spring but these are quite uncommon.
@Scilly.Suffolk - A comment on spares pricing vs complete components pricing - what you have to bear in mind is that the online pricing (particularly) of complete components is hugely discounted in the UK - 30 - 35% is not uncommon. That's OK (well, it isn't but that's a whole other thread) if all you are doing is moving a relatively high value box from A to B, a la Wiggle et al. A less-than-10pc margin is sustainable in business terms (just about). Spares are a totally different scenario - where complete unit stocks have very fast turnover, spares don't. So the cost to carry maybe 2,500 different spare parts is huge at the factory end - and that continues up the supply chain. We have around 1400 different spare part codes on stock, and about 80% of SKUs in stock at any given time ... most of that stock is held "just in case" ... so the capital tied up is relatively large and the % age return relatively small on the stock figure viewed as a whole. Most people know what a 10s Veloce RD looks like & know what it does, so it can be sold without needing to worry too much about having guys who can offer advice or technical assistance (the online info at http://www.campagnolo.com is pretty comprehensive in any case, or customers can always contact us). Spares, you need to know what the correct part is, and ideally, someone or something has to pay guys like me to have up-to-date and accurate technical knowledge - not heresay, not "my mate tried it and it worked for him" but accurate, factory-supplied information that can be offered with some prospect of recourse if it all goes horribly wrong and the customer ends up under a bus.
It's worth saying, there is a long-standing joke-that-isn't-a-joke in the cycle trade - the easiest way to make a small fortune in the cycle trade is .... to start with a big one!
Nowhere is that more true in this trade than in areas around spare parts!