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I've been on the whey for years, creatine mono as well. I have taken l-carnitine on and off, and I thought it helped me with football, but I wasn't sure if it was a placebo but I seemed to feel that bit fitter.
Currently taking maxi lean definition whey, it's pretty good - tastes decent, with added green tea, caffeine and carnitine. Maybe not great if you have a shake late at night though.
Have just read up on ZMA and so will be giving it a shot.
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Maxi lean is milk powder and soy (totaling 50% protein) so it's not really a whey. Maxi lean is also 28.9% sugars... I doubt the 150mg of green tea does anything on top of that.
Soy protein isolate (so 90% protein) comes in at £12/kg if you want to stick to soy (have a look at the amino profile over whey if you're open to options) and you can taylor your sugars to your own needs if it's a post workout. Supplement the greentea and l-carnatine seperate if you want to use them, but the rest of your diet really needs to be dialled in if you want them to make a difference, otherwise it's a waste of money.
Yukirin
ZMA before bed is amazing.
ZMA (Zinc Monomethionine Aspartate, Magnesium Aspartate and Vitamin B6) is a supplement used primarily by athletes, gymnasts, and bodybuilders. It is most often used as a recovery aid; notably, studies show that ZMA helps the body achieve deeper levels of REM sleep.
NB: dont have it with any calcium way before or after (they say 20 mins but i try for about an hour). They share the same absorption path, but calcium has a higher affinity so it will be absorbed over Mg.
Definitely my secret supplement of choice!
*also multivit and Omega 3 as a stable.
**Currently enjoying the SuperGreens and Whey as well.