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  • I'm not justifying it all, just pointing out this is part of wider social trends. I'm think I'm out of this discussion, too polarising, likely to cause shouting.

    [Edit] The point I was trying to make that using pretty women to promote and sell things is prevalent throughout Western society and likely an inveitable result of living in a patriarchal, capitalist society, and for things to change requires a more fundamental shift in social attitudes and practises.

  • too polarising

    Yes, "objectifying women is shitty" vs "nah, it's cool bro, coz everyone else is doing it" are certainly polar opposites of opinion.

    I'm still struggling to get my head round your argument, tbh.

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