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I did think this so I rode in once with my transfer jacket on, leading to full boil in a bag effect, but still numbness.
But to report back, operation STURMFIST is a success. Would buy again. Thread closed.
Hovis
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As a note. If I wear gabba and arm warmers my hands are cold. My arms are cold.
If it's 0 or less I wear a polartec jacket with arms and long sleave merino base layer. This keep my arms warm and hands warm.
I'd try a warmer jacket if I were you.