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@miro_o
Yeah, really short. For commuters wearing backpacks?
The Dolan sizing is weird to, with a gap, then nothing for tall riders.
There still isn't really anything out there except a Langster* if you want a modern fixed frame suitable for the road..... so ratty ex keirin frames with bodged brakes and cage still rule. At least they're fun, tough and look ace :)
*don't laugh.