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2012-05-06 - Tokyo Fixed & Chipotle Present "The Hunt" - Fixed Gear Criterium Race
 
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Old 9th March 2012   #51
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If brakes are mandatory, I think this is a great idea. I'd quite like to race it myself. Why the fuck not.

It would be ridiculous to let people race no brakes at Hillingdon, but I guess people do ridiculous things a lot of the time.
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Old 19th March 2012   #52
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I don't ride brakeless on the road but this looks fun. Glad I've recently purchased a helmet.
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Old 27th March 2012   #53
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Entry is now open!

riderhq.com/events/thehuntfixedgearcriterium#all
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Old 27th March 2012   #54
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"The event will start at 01:00 and finish around 05:30"
Umm?
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Old 27th March 2012   #55
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This looks like a fantastic way to market directly to niche consumers and raise brand awareness all while diversifying a company's promotional mix and hopefully cement a brand-image transfer from the cycling event into the consumer's mind.

Really looking forward to this. What am I buying again?
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Old 27th March 2012   #56
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^You're buying a 100% more expensive race entry than for a standard race round Hillingdon promoted by a local MTB club rather than the 15 sponsors on that poster.
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Old 27th March 2012   #57
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Exactly. Repped. AKA I'm not going.
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Old 27th March 2012   #58
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But we wouldn't get to ride our genuine fixes at normal races. Anyway, it is brakeless only, so I'm out.
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Old 27th March 2012   #59
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20 entry fee!

Wow. I didn't know organising races was so lucrative.
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Old 27th March 2012   #60
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Actually, it's mostly 5th floor riding. Which means you'd want to watch out in case they duff you up or try and blag something off of you.
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Old 27th March 2012   #61
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There are a few "riders eye" videos of road racing at Hillingdon on Youtube, you may wish to note exactly what happens when a rider clips his pedal on a corner and practise your landings ;)

Having ridden there for the first time weekend just past it's definitely possible to go around there smoothly barely using brakes at all, but that was with a group who had a vague concept of holding your line through corners and not half-wheeling.
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Old 27th March 2012   #62
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One thing for Hillingdon, it's a fun circuit. Did love racing there back in the day (over 5 years ago when I did race, and lose).
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Old 27th March 2012   #63
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30th out of 41 was a win in my book :p

Will be interesting to see how fast people can actually go around there without any freewheeling/recovery.
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Old 27th March 2012   #64
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In. Team Cunt representing.
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Old 27th March 2012   #65
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i might just turn up and watch, fuck it i'll marshall too..
this could be spectacularly hill-airy-arse..
bring some polish tinnies too.
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Old 27th March 2012   #66
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I'm riding! Anybody have a suggested gear ratio?
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Old 27th March 2012   #67
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In. Team Cunt representing.
In, as marshall that is.
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Old 27th March 2012   #68
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20 entry fee!
Hah! I thought this was a bit shit before, but paying that much to take part in a fundamentally flawed race >>>>>

Just as a reminder of what 20 could get you on the same weekend in the Isle of Wight:

- Entry to the randonee, which is a proper 100k ride and everything (0).
- Two nights in a tipi (17)
- A pint (3)
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Old 27th March 2012   #69
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Its one of these really stupid ideas that might be a lot of fun, very tempted to enter but doubt I will
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Old 27th March 2012   #70
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I think you'll find being stuck in a tipi with the forum's finest, at the height of summer, is in fact priceless.
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Old 27th March 2012   #71
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Oh, and the 20 gets you food and drink from the sponsors I belive.
They better do so!

Last edited by Doutzki; 27th March 2012 at 15:47. Reason: messed up the quote BBC code
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Old 27th March 2012   #72
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brakless only *sigh*

Would have been fun otherwise.
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Old 27th March 2012   #73
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More smooth race without brakes. In DK we have a criterium Fixed only no brakes race - and I am so glad it's a No Brakes event. (No downhills before any 90degree turn though).
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Old 27th March 2012   #74
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Can't find this on British Cycling's race calendar, can anyone else?
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Old 27th March 2012   #75
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I guess it's not BC registered then, not all cycling events are, many aren't...I bet the Brompton World's for example isn't either.
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Old 27th March 2012   #76
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Might explain why it's quite pricey then if they had to sort thier own insurance.
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Old 27th March 2012   #77
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I'm riding! Anybody have a suggested gear ratio?
A tiny, tiny gear. Nothing over 60 GIs.
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Old 27th March 2012   #78
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So 90 is out of the question then?
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Old 28th March 2012   #79
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Old 28th March 2012   #80
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mid 80s is fine round there. low-90s if you are used to it.

I suspect Joseph was taking the piss.

GI depends on your legs in any case.
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Old 28th March 2012   #81
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I was trying to get an edge on the other competitors.

I'm probably going to use 50/14 (93.9) or 48/14 (90.1) or if I feel like spinning then 50/15 (87.6).
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Old 28th March 2012   #82
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It almost worked too if weren't for that pesky Velocio.
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Old 28th March 2012   #83
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whats sort of distance is it?
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Old 28th March 2012   #84
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If thats the case, i might sign up but will explore the route on the weekend seeing if it is suitable for me and my spokes...
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Old 28th March 2012   #85
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whats sort of distance is it?
0.96 mile laps. 20 minutes and then 3 laps for the first races. Then 30 minutes and 5 laps for the final race.

Assuming their is a pace of about 24mph for the duration then that's (24 x 0.333) + (3 x 0.96) = 10.872 miles for the first race and (24 x 0.5) + (5 x 0.96) = 16.8 miles for the final race.

Yikes!
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Old 28th March 2012   #86
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I was trying to get an edge on the other competitors.

I'm probably going to use 50/14 (93.9) or 48/14 (90.1) or if I feel like spinning then 50/15 (87.6).
I'd guess the first two are way too high, even the third probably, that's track gearing. You don't have to slow down on corners on the track, nor sprint out of them to stay in touch, plus Hillingdon is pretty exposed and chance of a stiff headwind on some sections of the course.
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Old 28th March 2012   #87
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Like some said above - it's all about your legs. I ride 50/14 on the road and do weight training (I'm not a God though... yet!). But yes, I think I will gear down for this even if it's just for the psychological impact of pushing a smaller gear.

However, the bigger the gear the less revolutions you'll be doing on the corners so less chance of pedal strike. Just something to think about!
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Old 28th March 2012   #88
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To me this look like a recipe for broken bones
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Old 28th March 2012   #89
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Sounds a bit like:

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Old 28th March 2012   #90
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More smooth race without brakes. In DK we have a criterium Fixed only no brakes race - and I am so glad it's a No Brakes event. (No downhills before any 90degree turn though).
No brakes and fixed does indeed equal smooth racing - on a velodrome. Velodromes don't normally have hills or tight bends though...
I'd imagine most fixed crits are done on flat roads with wideish sweeping bends ?

Edit :-

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"Brakeless Track Bike ONLY. Helmet and drop bars required"
BSNYC would no doubt be laughing

Last edited by Ste_S; 28th March 2012 at 11:14.
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Old 28th March 2012   #91
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I'm pretty sure this qualifies as flat? Only 12 ft of rise and fall over 0.96 miles. Also, all the corners seem to be on 'inclines' so I assume that they would be fractionally slower anyway. I've seen some footage of people riding round this circuit and the corners don't seem insanely sharp. But I do still feel nervous about the prospect of riding round them at a high speed.

That said, I've never been on the course but will do this weekend - or very soon. Will report back then.


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Old 28th March 2012   #92
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Red Hook is on completely flat course in NYC docks and they were recommending 92.5 but their course has more straight than Hillingdon but much tighter corners more like a hot dog crit.
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Old 28th March 2012   #93
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After you've done a few laps at race speed, it stops feeling flat.

But then, I always lost :)
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Old 28th March 2012   #94
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http://app.strava.com/segments/630236

59mph average? Surely that's a GPS fail, but there seem to be a few others right behind him. I guess the 24mph average ones are more likely to be the standard we are aiming for.
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Old 28th March 2012   #95
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Mike Debney is 3 seconds faster than me round Regents Park and 13th on that list. Interesting.
(to me, nobody else)
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Old 28th March 2012   #96
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Here's a Strava link for the Cat 4 (noobs) race on Saturday, pace droppped below 20mph for about 8 seconds in a 40 minute race averaged just under 26mph.

*edit* the Strava segment lap times posted further up and the average speeds don't link up at all as the segment is only 1.3km for some reason not the 1.6km it actually is.

So times are right but speeds wrong

Last edited by adoubletap; 28th March 2012 at 12:01.
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Old 28th March 2012   #97
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Ta
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Old 28th March 2012   #98
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The corners aren't sharp, and with 170mm cranks easy to pedal through without breaking if you take the right line. That's with road pedals though, so thicker flat pedals (assuming some people might be using clips and straps) may strike.
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Old 28th March 2012   #99
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. Also, all the corners seem to be on 'inclines'
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Old 28th March 2012   #100
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the legendary "Fish" has entered, good luck everybody else.
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