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Old 10th July 2008   #1
winstondonor
 
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Vintage polo bikes rescued!

Under a special agreement Rollapaluza have purchased the stable of vintage polo bikes formerly deteriorating under the old stadium at Herne Hill....11 bikes in total some must be 60 years old.

although they're in a pretty bad way we're gonna get as many of these back up and running and being used for their intended purpose as we can....pics and details follow.

Last edited by winston; 10th July 2008 at 16:35.
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Old 10th July 2008   #2
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nice work Winston!
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Old 10th July 2008   #3
haeldonor
 
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Ha! great work, will you be selling them or keeping them for polopaluza events? ;)

if you are I would be interested in a proper polo bike!
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Old 10th July 2008   #4
Todd
 
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Amazing! Great news!
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Old 10th July 2008   #5
Object
 
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Nice work dude.
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Old 10th July 2008   #6
dogsballs
 
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caspar asked me about building wheels
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Old 10th July 2008   #7
thisisrob
well done it was a crime them sitting there decaying.
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Old 10th July 2008   #8
dtdonor
Great news! - what plans do you have for them?

Getting some grass games going would be great
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Old 10th July 2008   #9
Mike[trampsparadise]donor
 
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What was the special agreement?
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Old 10th July 2008   #10
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They are sitting in my van as we speak. There is a hell of a lot of work to be done to them to make them usable. We'll be doing a thorough examination soon but on first look they nearly all need new rims and headset at very least. Some of the frames are severely damaged.....none will be sold. We will keep you updated.
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Old 10th July 2008   #11
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As Caspar says there is a lot of work to be done....

we intend to refurbish them to a usable standard 3 or 4 at a time, a full restoration to shimmering museum standard is not going to be possible, but machines you can play polo on is!

We'd love some help from volunteers either from Rollapaluza CC or other polo fans and obviously those who put time in are most likely to get to use them, we're not asking for expensive kit, just some time and second hand bits...as eventually we're intending to apply for proper funding for wheels, resprays etc....

Long term we want to make them available to as many as poss and hopefully arrange storage for them at their spiritual home (HH) and get some grass court games / league going....

oddly, front wheels are in short supply so anyone got any mtb front wheels they don't want?
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Old 10th July 2008   #12
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This could be an opportunity to teach people how to mend bikes. If one of you skilled folks showed how to refurbish the whole bike, we noobs could help out in exchange for knowledge. I'd love to learn how to install a bottom bracket and headset properly
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Old 10th July 2008   #13
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would be nice to lend a hand
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Old 10th July 2008   #14
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I'll help out with time in a mechanical way. May have an old mbt front wheel somewhere I'll have a look. Check the local tip for front wheels I bet there are loads.
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Old 10th July 2008   #15
winstondonor
 
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and an amazing coincidence my brand, spanking new mallet arrived from pakistan today:



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Old 10th July 2008   #16
thisisrob
More than happy to lend my time. Can wheel build and almos everything else. Have wanted to ride one of them ever since i saw them ages ago
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Old 10th July 2008   #17
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WOW. Amazing.
I'd love to help.
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Old 10th July 2008   #18
the-smiling-buddha
 
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double WOW they look so cool
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Old 10th July 2008   #19
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fantabulous!

i'm up for lending a hand too. might have a spare mtb front going spare. apollo "quality" :)
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Old 11th July 2008   #20
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used saddles, grips, flat pedals etc would all be helpful...too!
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Old 11th July 2008   #21
JOLdonor
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by winston View Post
used saddles, grips, flat pedals etc would all be helpful...too!
Got some bits. Let us know when/where you need em.
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Old 11th July 2008   #22
dtdonor
i'm up for lending a hand. Can do wheel building etc. and probably have a few spare parts lying around. i'm off to france for 3 weeks but anytime after then...
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Old 11th July 2008   #23
stelle
nice work...I also have bit and pieces and time to give.
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Old 11th July 2008   #24
stevo_comdonor
 
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no bits but techyness aplenty, just say the word
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Old 11th July 2008   #25
snowy_againdonor
 
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I'll happily lend a hand - Winston, I may be able to help with some funding advice too in the future...
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Old 11th July 2008   #26
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Great bikes , but would a mountain bike wheel not be too small and leave a large gap?
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Old 11th July 2008   #27
Rapsac
 
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No, they all should have 26" wheels. Very wide rims too.
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Old 11th July 2008   #28
chriss0007
 
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but 26 x 1 3/8 like a westwood,endrick or westrick..? modern mtb is smaller..
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Old 11th July 2008   #29
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a good few years ago, a kind sole bough a load of new wheels for the polo bikes....however they were all the wrong size...he bought 700c they should be 26"...whether old 26, new 26 or 650 is probably irrelevant as there are no brakes...

Some of the wheels in the photos are 700c, that's because I did manage to get a few of the new wheels into the front forks....if I had them right at the bottom of the fork dropout and did the nuts up super-tight....stlll minimal clearance though and mud collected....

Think we'll have to get some new rears built around old hubs (mosyly 40 hole) and may need to buy some new hubs.....have found 3mm spokes......but if we get enough old second-hand fronts we can just use until f**ked then replace.....

Thanks for the wheel - build help offered...I gurantee you will have seen nothing like the surviving wheels before in you life!
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Old 12th July 2008   #30
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the bins round brixton are usually teaming with old halfords death traps that the yoots have got fed up with when they loose their sheen, will keep my eye out for wheels.
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Old 12th July 2008   #31
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Very cool. I'd love to help...
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Old 12th July 2008   #32
xsheepx
i have a bunch of MTB bits and wheels in the backyard.. feel free to take anything you need.

keen to help but i'm away now until the end of august so i dunn if i'll be much use.
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Old 14th July 2008   #33
runcible rakan
 
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Just found a 26" downstairs, let me know when to bring it somewhere.
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Old 18th July 2008   #34
Ratboy
i would love to help on this and i got 3 or 4 sets of old flat pedals and a old 40h fixed/free hub i could donate, and FAR too much free time
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Old 18th July 2008   #35
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i would love to help and have some free time on me hands. give me a shout.
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Old 15th September 2008   #36
dtdonor
any news on this? Offer of help still open
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Old 15th September 2008   #37
Hammo
Hey, got some old Mavic x221 (36h x 26") rims if you want them. They're still in the packaging and bugger all use to me.

Chris
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Old 15th September 2008   #38
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they're very busy at the moment. but when i spoke with caspar in manchester he said it wouldn't be that far away!
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Old 22nd September 2008   #39
g_man
Hello Winston. This is excellent news that the polo bikes are being restored. I used to play on these bikes years ago at HH as a youngster. Happy to lend a hand restoring and work in a bike shop so have access to strange stuff to fix them up. Be the wheels knackered? They have a lot of spoked in them and most will probably need rebuilding. One guy tried using 36h MTB rims but the ball kept getting stuck in them and plain gauge spokes weren't thick enough. DT Alpine would be best bet. This was the trickiest part of fixing them we found. How is it going so far?
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Old 22nd September 2008   #40
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We are working on it. We have managed to source some thick (3mm) spokes, I reckon that these, on 36 hole rims, will do the trick as far as keeping the ball out.

Basically we are waiting for some storage space to become available as we've outgrown my little unit in the Rollapaluza HQ in Whitechapel. As soon as storage is sorted, over the next few weeks (fingers crossed) we'll be in a much better position to get the next restoration of the bikes sorted.
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Old 25th September 2008   #41
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dude if you need i got room... kinda for 2 bikes? Whitechapel also.
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Old 25th September 2008   #42
Rapsac
 
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I bet you have shins!

What kind of mug do you take me for ;)

We'll be keeping all the bikes together, restoring them and using them for there intended purpose, grass court polo.
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Old 25th September 2008   #43
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Well worth a go.
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Old 25th September 2008   #44
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when does the grass court polo start then ? spring '09 ?
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Old 28th September 2008   #45
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I was playing grass court polo today, on one of those bikes actually(not specifically). It is great fun, plus!!!!!!!!!!!!! No road rash from falling. I live in Ireland(the starting place of the sport) and we just use the horse polo grounds in the Pheonix park. If there is any around in London I suggest you try sort something out. The bikes are great to ride, about a 1-1 ratio on them, take a little getting used to. But seriously dont be pickey about the wheels etc going on the bikes, I was riding with a front wheel with about 2cm of wobble either way and no problems.
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Old 29th September 2008   #46
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Got any photo's Stein?
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Old 1st October 2008   #47
Stein
 
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Even better than that:
And fyi:http://www.irishbicyclepolo.com/
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Old 7th October 2008   #48
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Rollapaluza have secured storage for these bikes at Herne Hill and will be taking them back there soon, then we'll be inviting all those who've shown an interest to come down and do what we can to get them going....next step...sort out the lumpy pitch in the infield!
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Old 7th October 2008   #49
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This is an amazing thread! Well done rollapalooza for saving these bikes.

I like the idea of asking the horsey polo people if we can use their pitches! Not sure how that would go down... maybe in Ireland polo has less of an elite identity than here.
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Old 8th October 2008   #50
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Well the elitist polo players are here too. Grounds being restricted to polo only. But it still is polo so try talk it over with them, it would be worth it. We use one of their sheds and leave all the bikes there, grounds are maintained by them so its all good. All you would need to get is some shin guards mallets(I assume you have already) and hurling helmets are ideal. Really its the best place to play it, injuries are limited to falling on a bike and mallet hits.
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