London Fixed-gear and Single-speed

http://main.london2012.com/en/news/archive/2007/July/2007-07-12-13-10.htm
http://www.building.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=284&storycode=3091333&c=0

i love pringles

Sweet! Read about this the other day. Loving the BMX bit inna middle.

Don't want to be a total bore, but

http://londoncyclesport.com/news/article/mps/UAN/2530/v/1/sp/332787698713332296302

hopefully i'll be in a nice country by 2012

Don't think thats boring, its important to keep the bigger picture stuff in mind because they will be really pushing how great what they are doing is and it could be easy to be taken in by all the PR.

Yeah, we did a bit in the paper about the one they were going to build by Royal Docks, which I was well happy about as it's proper close to where I live. But alas since we broke the story way back, no developments have occurred.

has anyone even thought about the state london will be in after the olimpics?...debt, unemplyement and so on,is east london doomed to turn into a shithole again?

Maybe my rent will go down?!

lol i really hope to be on the other side of the equator by then, i just think that a lot of money is beilg wasted for the olympics, OUR MONEY, when there's a lot of other stuff that should be dealt with in London, such as guns for coppers, bigger prisons.
I don't understand this country sometimes....in china families aren't allowed to have more than one child without paying extra tax, in here you get cash for each one you get, a council flat, benefit......time for GIuliani like mayor to come?

There's a lot of politics on here today!

yeah, tooooooo much.

You get a lot more cash and property and free money (at tax payers expense) for being a privileged old-school-tie creative-tax-evading capitalist middle-class breeder.

Ooops - sorry - just saw your comment about guns for pigs and bigger prisons, so now I know you were being sarcastic.

ya it's just so messed up you might as well take the piss, although i wouldn't mond pigs gping on a rampage every now and then, the other day i saw a kid actually saying to a cop he was gonna knock him out...pft

I know it should be in the listening thread (that's been quiet recently) but every should check out !!! - Me And Giuliani Down By The School Yard (A True Story) cool 80's dance punk. They're great live.

oh man pigs with guns end up like stockwell. more innocent people dead.
and yeah, fuck council tax.

!!! is great, "hello is this thing on?" has got one hell of a bassline.

its not bigger prison's that london of britain need,its better education system and a goverment that doesnt condone violence.the day police have guns is the day i leave this country...

summit 'rong wif that? like 7 millions 'aint nuff...

by the way police have guns, just not all of them...where are you off to then?
seriously cop aren't hard enough in here, bunch of sissies, in Italy i've been chased on foot for smoking a joint, in London a cop told me i should smoke one when my ex's flat got broken into...curfew for minors, tougher laws, (a written constitution might help) better trained police is what this city should have. Why are there so many alchoholics in here by the way?
Don't get me wrong i still love London, it's just that it could be better.

Blimey, you left a few years ago. How's life treating you abroad?

i assume we're talking about PC's on the streets not the other ones who got guns.

i'd say coppers in this country aren't getting their priorities right. it's not about the guns.

i agree a lot of them are sissies. i once got told off by a copper for having my bike between my legs on the pavement in brixton. my feet weren't even on the pedals. i got off my bike and sort of protested in a mild way he grabbed it, put it aside roughly and asked me for my name and address etc and threatened to give me a ticket. what a wanker. they should well be cracking down on drug dealers and all that crap instead of patronising a cyclist.

hey honest, is he supposed to be allowed to handle my bike at all?

it seems that it really is getting rather political today.

Cops here are quite soft. If the yoofs back home did some of the crap that London's kiddies get away with they'd be taken out of view of the CCTV and have the crap beaten out of them. I think I'm addicted to that cop show.. Street Wars. Damn there are some little pr1cks on that show!! I couldn't be a cop - I would've truncheoned the whole town's under 30 population by now.

Yeah cos stoners are the ones who cause all the trouble. Maybe a fight over the last mars bar, but there really are bigger problems in london than spliffs.

Aidan's spot on here - London needs better education opportunities and positive things for kids to do. Some more council housing would go down a treat in most places. Giving people a chance to do better than their parents and a future to look forward to would counter more crime and anti-social behaviour than giving every policeman a gun and the ability to arrest people for looking a bit dodgy.

Stopping small scale impact crime (shoplifting, vandalism, etc) has a positive impact on reducing more serious crimes, apparently.
That's why cops will deal with all crimes petty or not. Still, I think sometimes they could target more damaging crimes than remedial herb use..
"Kids these days..." just seem to have no respect for anyone - cops, parents, old peeps, etc. Who the hell is disciplining the kids? No one.
Not alowed to smack kids, not allowed corporal punishment in school, blah blah.. The little bastards get it too easy these days. If I was in charge...

become a vigilante then..

for your bag..

Sweet! I'm gonna adapt a bottle cage to hold one..

*pedal pedal pedal*
*ipod-drone-ped steps out while texting*
*WHACK!*
*smile*
*pedal pedal pedal*

I've been thinking about getting one, you know, just in case..;)

I'm getting a bit old now, just as fast, but things hurt so much more these days...

exactly. can't agree with you (& aidan) more.

and positive things for kids to do = cycling!

aidan has said a lot of good things recently..

a sage mind for one so young.

I expect the government would prefer him to do lots of drugs and knife some youth workers..

ahhh your to nice.......funny you should mention knifing a youth worker.....

Not again!!! AIDAN!!!!

yeah thats what she said......bitch

i reckon we should conscript out of control youths into small battalions of poorly armed soldiers and send them into war zones see how much they like guns after that (plus we could film it and sell it to a broadcasting network as "reality" tv)

now that i would watch

ok i'm really late was away from my mac all day, but i would really like to see a polo area in the middle of velodromes?

or is that just me?

Have you read Malcom Gladwells "Tipping Point?"

Part of me thinks that extra curricular activities would be a good thing, but my Daily mail side thinks we should stop being all 'touchy feely' with young people. Young people today have pretty much limitless opportunities. They have access to more information than any other generation in history and generally have more money. Yet they (we?) seem to do the least. I think we (as a society) have become lazy. We need more discipline, more reaction too our actions.

Quote from the 2012 site

"Modern racing bikes don’t look very different from the original invention."

Brilliant.

If anyone fancies geeking out on this, someone showed mea flier for this exhibit at work:

http://www.newlondonarchitecture.org/exhibitions.php

looks good but not a lot of information about whats at the exhibition

any ideas?

afaik the winning and shortlisted design are on display...

cool may go and visit that on a day off

i still think a polo court should be in the middle of the velodrome, just flip the back wheel and go

still only seating for 6000. It's going to be a bit of a squeeze.

Are they planning to keep the velodrome after the games or will it just be the outdoor courses? Its a bit nearer to me than Hearne Hill, would be nice...

i thought they were keeping it. I could be wrong though

What...no polo courts?!
;-)

Hoy rides no-brakes (TM) on the street it seems. or they were all just sitting on some bikes for a photo...

Someone said they were keeping it on the radio this morning. So it must be true.

wouldn't it be a bit wasteful to just get rid of it ?