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Old 22nd January 2013   #4151
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I dunno.

You're a cunt, and I wish you died of bollock cancer......

Nope, not feeling the lolz.
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Old 22nd January 2013   #4152
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I'm not going to lie, I like close to the knuckle comedy HOWEVER you're joking about his life here.

Armstrong is a bad man for what he did, you make choices in life, but nobody chooses cancer.

To sit there and snigger about wishing he'd been killed by it in some flippant remark is ridiculous. Don't forget, he's someone's son, ex-husband, boyfirend and friend all rolled into one, the same as countless others before him who have succomed to cancer.

It's like the Grandma who's just been handed the death penalty for drug smuggling. Is she a stupid woman who knew the consequences of said action? Yes. Would I crack a joke about how she'll be shot and her family will be devastated? Absolutely not.
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Old 22nd January 2013   #4153
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It has been suggested that Armstrong's cancer wouldn't have spread so far before diagnosis had he not been using masking agent to hide doping.

Couldn't happen to a nicer bloke.
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Old 22nd January 2013   #4154
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I'm not going to lie, I like close to the knuckle comedy HOWEVER you're joking about his life here.

Armstrong is a bad man for what he did, you make choices in life, but nobody chooses cancer.

To sit there and snigger about wishing he'd been killed by it in some flippant remark is ridiculous. Don't forget, he's someone's son, ex-husband, boyfirend and friend all rolled into one, the same as countless others before him who have succomed to cancer.

It's like the Grandma who's just been handed the death penalty for drug smuggling. Is she a stupid woman who knew the consequences of said action? Yes. Would I crack a joke about how she'll be shot and her family will be devastated? Absolutely not.
though having an avatar that is a joke about paedophilia is acceptable...

so is anything fine as a subject for humour, except death?

to be honest, we can joke about n̶e̶a̶r̶l̶y̶ anything. the problem is that each of us has our own particularly areas of sensitivity.

i was present when my mother died of cancer, i held another friend's hand as he died of it, but i find it acceptable to laugh and joke about it. laughter can be a human mechanism to cope with abhorrent things
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Old 22nd January 2013   #4155
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What the fuck is funny about that? Have you ever had cancer? Have you ever seen the effects it has on individuals? Have you ever had a friend, colleague or loved one die because of cancer?

Did you even think before posting in this thread?

Excuse my language but you are a fucking dickhead.
Speaking as someone who has, I was not offended. I didn't find it that funny, but that's not because they DARE to make a joke about CANCER. It just wasn't that amusing.

Cancer is one of those things that I think you must joke about. A lot.
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Old 22nd January 2013   #4156
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^^this. Almost exactly this. I actually didn't find what Nhatt posted funny but you can't draw the line at fatal illness while having a giggle about sexual child abuse. It just doesn't ring true.
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Old 22nd January 2013   #4157
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FTR. I wasnt offended by anything other than the crapness of the joke. If you're going to be cruel to get a laugh. For fuck sakes be funny.
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Old 22nd January 2013   #4158
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http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/8...-history-lying

"I guess I should let it go, but I keep thinking how hard he used me. Made me look like a sap. Made me carry his dirty water and I didn't even know it."
"... now the chase pack has reeled in Lance Armstrong, and he is busted...."
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Old 22nd January 2013   #4159
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Regarding that post, I feel RKP got it right

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No, Mr. Reilly, you looked like a chump long before we got to “the end.”
Reilly and a parade of others, including Sally Jenkins at the Washington Post, former pro John Eustice, the TV guys, Phil, Paul, Bob and, sadly, even an old friend and colleague with whom I’ve traveled and covered races, had to know. They chose to ignore the truth, denied the doping and, more importantly, stood by with hands in pockets while the bullying was going on.
They were the enablers who allowed a sociopath to run rampant through this beautiful sport for more than a decade, all the while inflicting incalculable damage on a group of fundamentally honest and decent people.
http://redkiteprayer.com/2013/01/the...to-redemption/
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Old 22nd January 2013   #4160
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Triathlon cheaters race, that would be an interesting starting line up. Armstrong seeded number 1
Top prize a bowl of shit with a flake stuck in it, because its not about the money.
Yeah, but Armstrong isn't exactly ironyman.
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Old 22nd January 2013   #4161
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I'm not going to lie, I like close to the knuckle comedy HOWEVER you're joking about his life here.

Armstrong is a bad man for what he did, you make choices in life, but nobody chooses cancer.

To sit there and snigger about wishing he'd been killed by it in some flippant remark is ridiculous. Don't forget, he's someone's son, ex-husband, boyfirend and friend all rolled into one, the same as countless others before him who have succomed to cancer.
One of my favourite jokes is about cancer, but I don't tell it anymore.

Sick, un-pc jokes... often better to avoid but can be acceptable when very funny IMHO.

But to joke about armstrong and cancer if rather different. He is target for jokes at his expense because of his behaviour. He is a target for sick, cancer-related jokes because he has traded on his cancer and even used it to help cover up deeply disgusting behaviour which would probably have lead to many of us wishing death on him if he'd done those things to our loved ones.

I'm trying to think of a decent comparison. Joking that people who have been on the dole for 10 years are all lazy scroungers is IMHO completely unacceptable. But to make the same joke about an individual who boasts about the the size of their TV whilst saying that the government are a soft touch and showing off that he hasn't worked for 10 years (because working is for mugs) is entirely different.
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Old 22nd January 2013   #4163
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But to joke about armstrong and cancer if rather different. He is target for jokes at his expense because of his behaviour. He is a target for sick, cancer-related jokes because he has traded on his cancer and even used it to help cover up deeply disgusting behaviour which would probably have lead to many of us wishing death on him if he'd done those things to our loved ones.

I'm trying to think of a decent comparison. Joking that people who have been on the dole for 10 years are all lazy scroungers is IMHO completely unacceptable. But to make the same joke about an individual who boasts about the the size of their TV whilst saying that the government are a soft touch and showing off that he hasn't worked for 10 years (because working is for mugs) is entirely different.
I agree. His stance all along has been to hide behind his cancer, even using it to explain his sudden transformation from explosive one day rider into stage race rider, and even hinting that any EPO positives might have been due to chemo on occasion.
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Old 22nd January 2013   #4164
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Mostly behind the Times paywall... but you get the idea. Now that is an interview I'd like to see.

http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/...cle1197546.ece
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Old 22nd January 2013   #4165
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Losing a leg in a car accident is not funny nor should it be the subject of jokes. That said, I heard some well established comedian telling this joke on the radio a while ago:

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The McCartneys' marriage broke up one Christmas when Paul handed Heather a prosthetic leg saying "This is not your main present; it's just a stocking filler.
If we can laugh at that, then perhaps we can laugh at Armstrong who is even more odious than the erstwhile Mrs McCartney and Paul put together.
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Old 22nd January 2013   #4166
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Mostly behind the Times paywall... but you get the idea. Now that is an interview I'd like to see.

http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/...cle1197546.ece
Read it in the paper on Sunday. A very good piece but Walsh's book is better.
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Old 22nd January 2013   #4167
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I'm not going to lie, I like close to the knuckle comedy HOWEVER you're joking about his life here.
Not funny, but still a joke.
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Old 22nd January 2013   #4168
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Read it in the paper on Sunday. A very good piece but Walsh's book is better.
I read it in the paper too, a good piece but then I looked at the rest of the paper and felt dirty.
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Old 22nd January 2013   #4169
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I read it in the paper too, a good piece but then I looked at the rest of the paper and put it back on the newsagent's shelf.
Typical Cycling Weakly reader
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Old 22nd January 2013   #4170
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Typical Cycling Weakly reader
They just want to test it.
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Old 22nd January 2013   #4171
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Typical Cycling Weakly reader
I actually bought it. As for the comic, I was one of those saddoes who used to buy it on Wednesday to get first bite of the good stuff in the classifieds.
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Old 23rd January 2013   #4172
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Anyone got any gags about chlamydia? My mate just had the swizzle stick and and all kinds of alarm bells are ringing. Looking forward to getting a bit of mileage out of this.
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Old 23rd January 2013   #4173
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Losing a leg in a car accident is not funny nor should it be the subject of jokes.
Whats do you call a Chinese lady with one leg shorter than the other?
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Old 23rd January 2013   #4174
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Losing a leg in a car accident is not funny nor should it be the subject of jokes.
Tell that to my brother's mate who lost his leg in a car accident. And for that matter all the other amputees who insist on doing practical jokes with their prostheses. It's not subjects which are immune to humour, but attitudes.
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Old 23rd January 2013   #4175
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Whats do you call a Chinese lady with one leg shorter than the other?
My uncle had one leg shorter than the other. He moved in strange circles.
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Old 23rd January 2013   #4176
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Ah, you actually try and work for a few days and look what happens?

I'm quite chuffed to have offended Chugit, and I did say I had a chuckle at the article, but could see where others with a less macabre sense or humor wouldn't find it funny.


I would also like to add that it has always been funny to talk about the death of public figures. I have not seen a single person complain about this site:http://www.isthatcherdeadyet.co.uk/

Though it echos similar sentiments.

Last edited by !Nhattattack!; 23rd January 2013 at 11:19.
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Old 23rd January 2013   #4177
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I've seen a few mutterings about isthatcherdeadyet, but mostly from conservative politicians.

Back to Lance, this article is interesting - http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...ah-pr-disaster It pretty much says that confessing has really not helped, and he should have just carried on lying. People who didn't trust him before still don't, and those that did now don't.
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Old 23rd January 2013   #4178
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^ Deja vu!
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Old 23rd January 2013   #4179
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That's the new posh way of saying re!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 23rd January 2013   #4181
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^ Déjà vu!
Fixed.
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Old 23rd January 2013   #4182
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Whats do you call a Chinese lady with one leg shorter than the other?
MrsO is called Irene.
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Old 23rd January 2013   #4183
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UCI press officer for last 15 years has resigned after Hein went on the record saying they warned riders about adverse results. lolol
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Old 23rd January 2013   #4184
fasih
I thought this was funny - Leaked-outtakes-from-the-oprah-armstrong-interview
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Old 23rd January 2013   #4185
Lee garcia
That's brilliant
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Old 23rd January 2013   #4186
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Old 23rd January 2013   #4187
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MrsO is called Irene.
I didn't realise she was Chinese, Midda O.
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Old 24th January 2013   #4188
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bloke said down the pub..

it must be true, bloke said down the pub...

it was testosterone patches on the cheating cunts balls that gave him cancer in the first place

what a cunt
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Old 24th January 2013   #4189
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WTH?!

http://road.cc/content/news/74348-ph...vated-jealousy

Drowning in koolaid!
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Old 24th January 2013   #4190
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Perhaps Phil should do fewer miles ...
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Old 25th January 2013   #4191
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Old 25th January 2013   #4192
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All sorts of shenanighans going on at the first public meeting of the UCI's independent commission today with the UCI moving to postpone it due to issues with the WADA code and a Truth and Concilliation process.

The Commission have basically accused the UCI of using this as a way of stopping their work.

What a fucking mess.
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Old 25th January 2013   #4193
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Link^
Anyone know if the UCI has dropped their case against Kimmage?
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Old 26th January 2013   #4195
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Colours to the mast. Long time hater of Armstrong. I've read enough about his bullying ways over the years to realise he's a right cunt.

I've (just) watched both of the Oprah interviews. I have to admit to being captivated by them. Totally fascinated by him, a socio-path with the walls - finally crashing down around him. I have to say though, that I didn't find it insincere. I think thats as close to candid as you'll get from him.

To adopt an LA idiosyncrasy; Do I think he will regain the the trust of those he sought to persecute for daring to call him a cheat? No, probably not. I mean, LeMond, Kimmage, Walsh, Andrieus, etc.

Im genuinely glad he came clean in the end. What a sordid tale though. He did his best to ruin professional lives s and careers. Forgiveness is a reward for the wronged party, it gives closure to the bitterness and hatred harboured for those who we feel have crossed us.

LA will live with his misdemeanour's forever.
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Old 28th January 2013   #4196
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Almost inevitably, UCI has disbanded the Independent Commission entirely

http://velonews.competitor.com/2013/...%28VeloNews%29
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Old 28th January 2013   #4197
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So their inquiry into corruption within the UCI has to stop because...?
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Old 28th January 2013   #4198
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It must be a good decision for cycling....
Perhaps WADA understands why:

“It has again become apparent that rather than deal with the obvious problems that exist within the sport of cycling, the UCI once again would like to avoid its responsibilities and instead seek to blame WADA and others.”
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Old 28th January 2013   #4199
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McQuaid, who said he had resigned Thursday....
hopes raised

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...from the International Olympic Committee
hopes dashed.
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Old 29th January 2013   #4200
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Boo!
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