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Old 5th November 2012   #3301
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I'm all for more transparency and accountability at the UCI, but no-one seems to be able to come up with credible candidates to replace McQuaid so I'm unsure what regime change will achieve.
You clearly no much more about pro-cycling than me, but I find it literally unbelievable that there is no credible alternative to someone who is not at all credible.
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Old 5th November 2012   #3302
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^The likely most influential member of the UCI is Igor Makarov the billionaire head of Katusha Russian cycling project.

His backstory is interesting. He's also head of Russian cycling federation and is funding a track program to match GB
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Old 5th November 2012   #3303
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The rules around the election of the UCI management committee and the President are nuts so, unless there is major reform, then one of the current members of the committee would be the next President.

Few of them are credible.

Personally, if I were involved in this, I'd be working on a new organisation that includes the teams and the race organisers that is separate from the UCI, leaving them the amateur side of the sport to run. Which, for a group of amateurs, seems appropriate.
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Old 5th November 2012   #3304
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7 hours after everybody else
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Old 6th November 2012   #3305
lillywhite
Just read interesting article on Cyclingnews.com, about the EPO battle of major drug companys, risking patients health for bigger profits! Wow what a shock multinationals have no morals!
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Old 6th November 2012   #3306
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The rules around the election of the UCI management committee and the President are nuts so, unless there is major reform, then one of the current members of the committee would be the next President.

Few of them are credible.

Personally, if I were involved in this, I'd be working on a new organisation that includes the teams and the race organisers that is separate from the UCI, leaving them the amateur side of the sport to run. Which, for a group of amateurs, seems appropriate.
This. Rip the lot down and start again, root and branch
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Old 6th November 2012   #3307
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News just in, Lance Armstrong banned from Movember for using hair growing steroids.

http://l.yimg.com/ea/img/-/111103/la...giqkCh3wmnxQ--
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Old 6th November 2012   #3308
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Lance Armstrong has never failed a test for Rogaine or Grecian2000.
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Old 6th November 2012   #3309
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Testosterone?
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Old 6th November 2012   #3311
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sorry if its a pea but a greater film post bust with almost admirable levels of front from armstrong and bruyneel

http://youtu.be/4LMpY0_kYGc
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Old 9th November 2012   #3312
diable
Lance Armstrong is being investigated for ordering a "hit" on Wiggo
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Old 10th November 2012   #3313
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This is quite a good read and very well reasoned compared to some of the other websites/comments:

Did Lance Armstrong Dope?
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Old 10th November 2012   #3314
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can you paraphrase it for us?
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Old 10th November 2012   #3316
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Don't go to sleep, they're coming for them, never go to sleep again...
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Old 10th November 2012   #3317
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Isn't it funny how Armstrong turned out to be a bit of a lemon? The jersey colour really should have been a bit of a giveaway all along.
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Old 10th November 2012   #3318
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http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/joac...ng-at-us-teams

It would be hard to find anyone more cynical but, on the other hand, he is at least not equivocating.
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Old 11th November 2012   #3319
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can you paraphrase it for us?

It really is worth the effort to read the whole way through. I'd only ruin it.
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Old 11th November 2012   #3320
bullwinkle
Each one of those jerseys will be costing him a few million $s very very soon.....
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Old 12th November 2012   #3321
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Apparently, he's now resigned from the Livestrong board.
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Old 12th November 2012   #3322
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http://www.timetriallingforum.co.uk/...0#entry1034552
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Old 12th November 2012   #3323
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In many ways, it's a massive success story. When you have found all the gains there are in the things you have under control, the next step is to find a way to control everything and anything else, in the case of Lance era pro cycling, all that was left was doping. To mastermind and control this was the final piece in the jigsaw of success.

Taking morality and legality away for a moment, this is the ultimate attention to marginal gains, how else would it have been possible for him to 'win' 7 tours?

This is probably part of the reason why Lancey-boy posts photos of himself 'chillaxing in his jersey room'. Well, that and the fact he's an odious, depraved psychopath.
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Old 12th November 2012   #3324
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He is an incredibly impressive sociopath. You get the impression that whatever he did he would have, through a combination of will power, intelligence, bullying, intimidation, hard work, backstabbing and cheating, risen to the top. Think great business leaders and politicians of our time.

Wonder how he would have done at the fall of communist Russia. That's the true test of a cunt.
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Old 12th November 2012   #3325
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Ashenden inserting the scalpel again:

http://nyvelocity.com/content/featur...trong-triangle
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Old 12th November 2012   #3326
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Greatest Twitter troll of all time too
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Old 12th November 2012   #3327
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Surprised by the number of people who seemed to side with him, "the playing field was levelled" and all that malarkey.
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Old 12th November 2012   #3328
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He is an incredibly impressive sociopath. You get the impression that whatever he did he would have, through a combination of will power, intelligence, bullying, intimidation, hard work, backstabbing and cheating, risen to the top. Think great business leaders and politicians of our time.

Wonder how he would have done at the fall of communist Russia. That's the true test of a cunt.
If he had been born at the right time in the right part of Germany, you could imagine him moving gracefully from Nazi to Communist and on to fervent capitalist and democrat all without once bothering himself with ideology.
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Old 12th November 2012   #3329
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Surprised by the number of people who seemed to side with him, "the playing field was levelled" and all that malarkey.
Aha, use of the logic that is 'well, everyone else was doing it so it was OK'
We all know that's bollocks, it's not OK and never was, but some still need to justify their opinion. a lot of people (inexplicably) idolised him and find it very hard to reconcile his wrongdoing within their own ego. Choosing instead to become defensive.
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Old 12th November 2012   #3330
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But the man came back from cancer to win the Tour de France seven times. How can people accuse someone who has done so much good of anything bad? He is a saint of the modern age.
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Old 12th November 2012   #3331
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I'm starting to warm to him again after that twitter troll pic.
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Old 12th November 2012   #3332
RPM
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Old 12th November 2012   #3333
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Last week Lance's lawyers offered SCA $1m to settle their claim against him. No deal.
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Old 12th November 2012   #3334
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They would only take 10˘ on the $ if they thought LA was pretty much bankrupt, which doesn't seem to be the case yet. They might want to get in before the Feds, though, because triple damages on the fraud charges are going to make a big dent even in LA's ill gotten gains.
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Old 13th November 2012   #3335
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http://catchmypicture.com/DS9twT.jpg
Can somebody with the skillz move his right arm a bit, and have him 'just w*nking around'?

Pretty please.
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Old 13th November 2012   #3336
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Too true. SKINS was the clothing choice of Anders Brevik!
i noticed after that 'event' Chainreactioncycles had massive reductions on Skins clothing, alot was 70% off. I have the short sleeve Anders model,(unintentionally)
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Old 15th November 2012   #3337
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Hilarious! Action Bikes are selling 'Chasing Lance By Martin Dugard' at a price of your choice.

I can honestly say it will not be going on my Christmas list for Santa.
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Old 16th November 2012   #3338
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they will even do it at £0 and free delivery (did not actually complete the order, but looked like it was going through).
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Old 16th November 2012   #3339
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Yeah, I bought one at 1p. Then thought "I wonder if 0.00 would work, I'll see if it lets me get to the checkout". Because there is nothing to pay it bypassed the payment options altogether and processed the order. 2 copies on the way.

Just need to think of a friend that I buy Christmas presents for, that's into either cycling or cancer and has no principles...
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Old 16th November 2012   #3340
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Just got some e-mails from Action bikes. They canceled one of the orders, so only have one book coming. Awesomely they canceled the order for 1p and have dispatched the £0.00 one. Free book, free postage. Nice one Action Bikes.
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Old 16th November 2012   #3341
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Action Bikes I'd a Trek dealership.

Just sayin'.
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Old 16th November 2012   #3342
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Does not parse.
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Old 16th November 2012   #3343
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So you're saying you wouldn't a Trek dealership?
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Old 16th November 2012   #3344
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no, they called the UCI hotline and ID'd a Trek Dealership for being too much about the bikes and having shifty characters affiliated to them.
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Old 16th November 2012   #3345
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Action Bikes I'd firebomba Trek dealership.

Just sayin'.
Just guessin'
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Old 16th November 2012   #3346
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Just guessin'
Mistyped 'is' as 'id' (s&d are adjacent on the "keyboard") and the phone auto-corrects to I'd

Just guessin'
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Old 27th November 2012   #3347
Mortadella
had it coming...
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Old 27th November 2012   #3348
Mortadella
levi, that is...
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Old 3rd December 2012   #3349
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I like the subtitle on this story:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/lemo...uci-presidency
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Old 4th December 2012   #3350
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:)

Good luck to him.
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