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Old 3rd July 2012   #451
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Sagan on better drugs than everyone else. Probably a derivation of MDMA which would explain all the dodgy dancing.
Repped
Mdma comes to the party. Had suspicions with the chicken now confirmed. What will be his next celebration?
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Old 4th July 2012   #452
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Please excuse my ignorance, but where are the Shlecks this year? Not heard anything about them in the build up or in race commentary/highlights..
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Old 4th July 2012   #453
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Andy Schleck is injured and not riding, Frank is in 30th place at 38 seconds, most of which he lost in the prologue. He's been talking down his chances. I sense the commentators, especially Phil and Paul, don't want to talk about RadioShack any more than they have to (which they do because of Cancellara) because they don't want to tall about why Bruyneel is not there.
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Old 4th July 2012   #454
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my fantasy team is a slow burner...

well, with Renshaw and a crocked Tony Martin it has to be : /
Mines kicking butt.

Sagan, Cav, Wiggo, Morkov, all stable point earners. Had Goss a few times for flat stages too.

Even had Chavanel yesterday. Which was fun.
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Old 4th July 2012   #455
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Old 4th July 2012   #456
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What do you think the general feeling in French cycling might be about the prospect of a British winner? Ambivalence?
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Old 4th July 2012   #457
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Petacchi shows off another kwality Campagnolo failure. How the hell can a chain end up looking like his did?
The larger shifting range makes you greedy. Hes riding 53:12 and 53:21 at the same time. Its a clever function.


What was the deal with Sanchez's Di2 rear mech?
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Old 4th July 2012   #458
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While the Brits may want Wiggo to win, I don't think he's a very popular rider outside of these shores. Judging by the apoplectic reaction to the 3k rule being applied yesterday on the cyclingnews forum, where he was accused of turning into the crash because he didn't have to legs top stay with the group on the short climb, he's definitely unpopular with the yanks. I think his wins in P-N, Romandie and the Dauphine have bought him a lot of respect in France and if he produces a gutsy ride and challenges for the Tour well they'll warm to him, but won't line the streets to shout his name. Cav is well respected in France
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Old 4th July 2012   #459
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^^ Looked to me like the mechanic had fucked something up with his wheel swap since he was going mental at the Mavic car until they dragged his chain back up.
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Old 4th July 2012   #460
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Everything can be blamed on 3rd-party pulleys..

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Old 4th July 2012   #461
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I was going to blame Shimano-Yumeya. But it appears they dont do pulley wheels.
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Old 4th July 2012   #462
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top five today:
1. goss
2. caendish
3. greipel
4. renshaw
5. sagan
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Old 4th July 2012   #463
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This might sound defeatist, but I predict a pile up.

No-one will be wanting to share a wheel with anyone and Cavendish's tactics/form is out of the bag.

It'll be double hard to snuggle in behind Goss, Renshaw or Greipel.
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Old 4th July 2012   #464
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This race is like a drug. #addicted

"Watching" each stage via a comprehensive team/rider twitter list I got pointed to is just about feeding the cold turkey each afternoon.

Hate to be a doubter but Sagans form is *almost* too good to be true. I want to be wrong.
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Old 4th July 2012   #465
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If its windy along the coast. Creating a clean mass finish is going to take its toll. Quite a few of the PC guys got into trouble yesterday.
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Old 4th July 2012   #466
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There is a looong straight drag to the finish today.
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Old 4th July 2012   #467
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top five today:
1. goss
2. caendish
3. greipel
4. renshaw
5. sagan
+1
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Old 4th July 2012   #468
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Goss? Really? The Orica train seems to be misfiring to me. Didn't they have serious numbers for yesterday's intermediate and Cav just went past them.

That said I picked Gerrans for the win yesterday, put a crash put paid to that
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Old 4th July 2012   #469
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He got 3rd on Monday. Today's result could be similar.
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Old 4th July 2012   #470
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sean comes off like such a crackhead on tv :D
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Old 4th July 2012   #471
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I have Cav, Goss, Freire, and Sagan in my fantasy team for today. Looking for a top 4 points orgy.
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Old 4th July 2012   #472
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What stages are people looking forward to most this year?


11 and 16 personally.
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Old 4th July 2012   #473
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My prediction for today

It will all end in rouen
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Old 4th July 2012   #474
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^ +1

Cav still the quickest, so its up to the others to find ways of beating him, to be cleverer with their train. Saying that and doing it are two different things: Cav is very good at positioning himself and I think his size makes him difficult to pick out. That size also helps him draft riders better, and gives people less of an advantage drafting him. I've noticed Sagan looks for his wheel on the flat finishes
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Old 4th July 2012   #475
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Goss made an error letting cav into his train the other day. He has good pace imo if he gets the position right. i think the greenedge train is pretty good so thats why im going for goss today. I still hope cav wins though. i just think getting the correct positioning twice in a row might be beyond him.
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Old 4th July 2012   #476
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Cav still the quickest, so its up to the others to find ways of beating him, to be cleverer with their train.
inrng had a good suggestion. Though to be honest I've never seen this intentionally done (and commented on) before in all my many (3...) years of watching pro cycling

http://inrng.com/2012/07/tour-stage-4/
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Old 4th July 2012   #477
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It will all end in rouen
Dad joke
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Old 4th July 2012   #478
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I'm a dad
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Old 4th July 2012   #479
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Cav is all acceleration. Too early or too late, and he'll lose it.

In this respect it should be easier once hes grabbed the wheel of the next fastest guy, than to time your own train. Just need to get that wheel.
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Old 4th July 2012   #480
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^that, Gossy always seems to be travelling faster than Cav when they cross the line but his jump is so vicious Goss just can't claw it back
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Old 4th July 2012   #481
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I always felt he would have been better off with roles reversed, when big Thor/ Pettachi used to infiltrate the HTC train and nick points off him.

Must be a shitter looking back and seeing him on your wheel. Should you go early, and have to claw back, or late and risk not having the time to claw back if he passes you.

Damned if you do, damned if you dont.
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Old 4th July 2012   #482
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the way Boassen Hagen is being hyped for this tour, you'd think he'd at least sneak into someone's top 5?
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Old 4th July 2012   #483
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Sagan is nicking all the stages he could possibly win..... :(
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Old 4th July 2012   #484
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any quick thoughts on who could be strong in the mountains whose not going to be a GC contender, any names spring to mind?
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Old 4th July 2012   #485
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^^ this. Edvald Higgs Boson as he'll be know today.

Last edited by miro_o; 4th July 2012 at 14:25. Reason: (sp)
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Old 4th July 2012   #486
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^ +1

Cav still the quickest, so its up to the others to find ways of beating him, to be cleverer with their train. Saying that and doing it are two different things: Cav is very good at positioning himself and I think his size makes him difficult to pick out. That size also helps him draft riders better, and gives people less of an advantage drafting him. I've noticed Sagan looks for his wheel on the flat finishes
cav is prob the easiest in the bunch to spot wearing a yellow helmet and a wc jersey :D
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Old 4th July 2012   #487
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any quick thoughts on who could be strong in the mountains whose not going to be a GC contender, any names spring to mind?
Is this how telly journos work?
crowd sourcing?
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Old 4th July 2012   #488
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any quick thoughts on who could be strong in the mountains whose not going to be a GC contender, any names spring to mind?
Wout Poels
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Old 4th July 2012   #489
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Cav also easy to spot as he is always behind goss... Always was
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Old 4th July 2012   #490
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and Cav turns Gossy over again at the intermediate sprint.
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Old 4th July 2012   #491
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Fuck you sidi ad
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Old 4th July 2012   #492
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Seems Sagan is the first ever stage winner born after 1990.
They get younger every year (apart from Jens who gets older)
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Old 4th July 2012   #493
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cav is prob the easiest in the bunch to spot wearing a yellow helmet and a wc jersey :D
Not when he's limpet-like directly behind you, just before he kicks and goes past you

Plus Cav has shown he can kick, then go again. He won that stage in the Giro where he kicked, got checked by a rider, got a gap, kicked again and won it. The only stage Goss won there was when Cav got taken out by Ferrari
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Old 4th July 2012   #494
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lovely catch on by Nibali there
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Old 4th July 2012   #495
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Ouch.
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Old 4th July 2012   #496
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so its goss!
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Old 4th July 2012   #497
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Shit no :-(
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Old 4th July 2012   #498
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Frick!!!
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Old 4th July 2012   #499
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What a boring sprint. Shame Cavendish wasn't there.
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Old 4th July 2012   #500
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Who caused that crash then?
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