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Old 16th May 2011   #45351
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UCI (or whatever it was called) cancelled tandem track racing back in the day because death toll was quite high
Two things strike me as wrong in that sentence - first, I have no recollection of any notable fatalities in track tandem racing, and second and more importantly I have no recollection of the UCI ever taking a decision in the interests of competitor safety.

I think the tandem sprint was eventually eliminated from high level racing (Olympics and Worlds) due to lack of wide support from world class competitors. The fact that it is still contested at a very high speed by blind stokers indicates that it is not inherently substantially more dangerous than solo competition.
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Old 16th May 2011   #45352
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Old Bars being kept to put back on if I ever Sell.......

But at the moment....It's a Keeper !!!!!
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Old 16th May 2011   #45353
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Don't ask why but there is now a Dolan track tandem in the house.
Lovely, and a bargain, but have you tried it with those wheels? I'm thinking you might want something a good bit stiffer than Shamals for sprinting on a tandem.
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Old 16th May 2011   #45354
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The Bike as I got it....



Start of the Project...Bars, Brake Levers, and Saddle changed.






Now waiting for the New Wheels, Grips, Tyres.....also thinking of changing the Crankset to a Sturmey Archer one to keep in with the Bike being a Raleigh.
i hate to sound rude, but you ruined a perfect bike
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Old 16th May 2011   #45355
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Because the market is small. All tandems should be built to take 28.6mm seat posts, problem solved.
Got a normal stem and 27.2-28.6 shim for £17 total. Proper stokers are much more pricey.

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Lovely, and a bargain, but have you tried it with those wheels? I'm thinking you might want something a good bit stiffer than Shamals for sprinting on a tandem.
It will get different wheels but I'm not sure where to start. Don't want to spend alot on the bike as I'm not sure it will be ridden often.
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Old 16th May 2011   #45356
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^^^ The frame looks too big for the rider, which accounts for a lot of the dislike
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Old 16th May 2011   #45357
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Lovely, and a bargain, but have you tried it with those wheels? I'm thinking you might want something a good bit stiffer than Shamals for sprinting on a tandem.
I was thinking that.
How can a set of Shamals take, say.... 170kgs at 50mph?
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Old 16th May 2011   #45358
Nigel182
No Worries it only fits me because I'm a Lanky Git.....!!!!!

Well each to our own and if anyone visits Willy Wonkas Choclate Factory and leaves after being stretched... then make me an Offer for the bike.... but I may not sell......
:-)
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Old 16th May 2011   #45359
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Perfect? How was it perfect before? Standard 18-23 frame. Dime a dozen! Personally I like it how it is now. Proper basher material.
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i hate to sound rude, but you ruined a perfect bike
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Old 16th May 2011   #45360
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It will get different wheels but I'm not sure where to start. Don't want to spend alot on the bike as I'm not sure it will be ridden often.
Rear is easy, just borrow a disc, preferably a Comete or Corima HM. On the front, axial stiffness is basically directly proportional to spoke count, all other things being equal, so whatever works for a solo with ~50% more spokes should be OK, e.g. a 24 spoke Deep V is fine for solo use, so a 36 spoke should be OK for a tandem. Same rules apply as for any wheel, deeper rims both improve the spoke bracing angle and shorten the spokes, plus the rims themselves are usually stiffer. On indoor tracks, most teams seem to use a disc on the front too, if you can borrow one off a pursuitist it might be worth a try to see how it handles outside at HH.

I've been thinking about a tandem for time trialling just in case my dad gets too old to be let out on his own, and I fancy B43s might be a good choice for a reasonably priced wheelset for clinchers, nice and deep and strong and if you divide the weight between the two people and you can tell people you're on 350g clincher rims :-)
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Old 16th May 2011   #45361
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I'd probably whack in a threadless fork (are the existing ones a bit bent?) or quill stem (but I just dont like the quill-a-ahead things). Grips on your risers. and it's fine. Better thats it's used and functional than mildly better aesthetically (debatable)...
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Old 16th May 2011   #45362
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The Bike as I got should have left it....
You really should have sold it on to somebody the right size and used the money to but a bike your size.
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Old 16th May 2011   #45363
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quill stem (but I just dont like the quill-a-ahead things).

Agreed, just go with a quill stem or fit new forks if the current ones are bent.
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Old 16th May 2011   #45364
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Dawes is getting there. Should be pretty much done by the end of today. Got all the bits to finish it appart from the the chain. It arrived yesterday morning while I was still in bed and now I've got to wait till monday to get it :(

What tyres are these?
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Old 16th May 2011   #45365
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pasela tourguard?
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Old 16th May 2011   #45366
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Dolan track tandem
looks fantastic fun, didn't know you could get black shamals
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Old 16th May 2011   #45367
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^^ Yep http://chrisborneorestos.files.wordp...5/wheel-21.jpg

700x35
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Old 16th May 2011   #45368
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thank you!
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Old 16th May 2011   #45369
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OK, who wants to race?



Don't ask why but there is now a Dolan track tandem in the house.

Most of the essential parts were included. Couldn't imagine starting with only a frame.

Just had to purchase a stem and shim for the stoker. Why are real stoker stems so expensive?

With RPM's blessing I'd like to bring to HH and let anyone who wants to ride it thrash out some laps on the velodrome.
That looks like tonnes of fun! Dibs a ride on that.
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Old 16th May 2011   #45370
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Huzzah, just got my 1982 Mercian Olympic back from them boys in Derby!

...base coat only... must...decide...on... colour....
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Old 16th May 2011   #45371
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I wonder how difficult it would be to ride a tandem on the back by yourself, as if you were riding no handed...
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Old 16th May 2011   #45372
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With RPM's blessing I'd like to bring to HH and let anyone who wants to ride it thrash out some laps on the velodrome.
Fuck yeah. Maybe not with the shamals though and 200 odd kilo of riders
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Old 16th May 2011   #45373
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I want black Shamals.
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Old 16th May 2011   #45374
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I wonder how difficult it would be to ride a tandem on the back by yourself, as if you were riding no handed...
Not hard, apparently. I think you need Orang-utan arms or some bits of string to hold the bars when you set off, but after that it's just riding no handed on a long wheelbase bike. Haven't done it myself, but I know my dad has back in the day.
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Old 16th May 2011   #45375
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Even easier if the tandem is designed for it...
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Old 16th May 2011   #45376
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But impossible if it's designed wrong...
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Old 16th May 2011   #45377
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i hate to sound rude, but you ruined a perfect bike
Used to be mine, Nigel 182 if you get Sturmley's dibs the stronglight's I loved those, other than that, do what you think looks best with your bikes, we don't all like them the same.
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Old 16th May 2011   #45378
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Wow... impressive.

Looks like good aerodynamics tho.
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Old 16th May 2011   #45379
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I keep thinking of these 2 poor sods, when looking at the tandem.. (sorry dmczone)
;)

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Old 16th May 2011   #45380
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ha i like that video, square wheels ftw! must have cut some nasty chunks in the track
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Old 16th May 2011   #45381
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It makes me cringe.every.time.
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Old 16th May 2011   #45382
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ha wasn't expecting that... thought the pilot was gonna shit or summat... the sound as the disc cuts through the track.
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Old 16th May 2011   #45383
FrankTheTank
Same here, amazing how they managed to reduced the speed pretty properly still,
they do look like they have proper sprinters legs tho.
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Old 16th May 2011   #45384
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Old 16th May 2011   #45385
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There's something wrong with modern tubular gluing techniques, every time somebody punctures on the track the tyre comes off. In the olden days, people used to try to avoid that by using Shellac, now they don't seem to be bothered.
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Old 16th May 2011   #45386
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OK, who wants to race?



Don't ask why but there is now a Dolan track tandem in the house.

Most of the essential parts were included. Couldn't imagine starting with only a frame.

Just had to purchase a stem and shim for the stoker. Why are real stoker stems so expensive?

With RPM's blessing I'd like to bring to HH and let anyone who wants to ride it thrash out some laps on the velodrome.
next LFGSS track day?
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Old 17th May 2011   #45387
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Got my Textima back from the painter today. Really happy with the result ...


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Old 17th May 2011   #45388
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yeah I've got the one that originally was on the frame ... no oval seattube though

as every seatpost was basically custom fitted for every frame (especially the oval ones) I doubt there are many spares
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Old 17th May 2011   #45389
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shit when did everyone start building MTB's? anyone inerested in a 19" 853 genesis altitude i have to shift?
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Old 17th May 2011   #45390
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Two of my newborn.

Concorde. Unicorn vomit pub bike. I apologise for my crimes against velo.



Enigma esprit Ti Track



Cheers
Colin
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Old 17th May 2011   #45391
scorchdonor
Colin, are those open pro cd on enigma
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Old 17th May 2011   #45392
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Both wharry nice.

;)
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Old 17th May 2011   #45393
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Colin, are those open pro cd on enigma
No they are Open pro Ceramic
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Old 17th May 2011   #45394
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Enigma is ridiculously nice.
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Old 17th May 2011   #45395
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that enigma remminds me of a bike i used to own. very :(
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Old 17th May 2011   #45396
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New track project, will also be ridden on streets in between hence randos....

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now i just need a longer stem (110ish) and some classic drops 123s or 125s.... can any one help?

Also forgot to say, thanks to Aidy40 for the frame.

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Old 17th May 2011   #45397
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Got my Textima back from the painter today. Really happy with the result ...


what a superbly stacked woodpile, you can come and do mine if you like?
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Old 17th May 2011   #45398
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what a superbly stacked woodpile, you can come and do mine if you like?
Glad someone else noticed it. Although, I'd rather have more equal access to the big bits and the small bits.
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Old 17th May 2011   #45399
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remember the "rodaplana" bike i showed some days ago?
The owner brought this one now. It's the "time trial" bike his father used... Wow! This bike is very very very light and it was made for hight velocity. Two big chainrings and a cassete with only 5 gears (all small "cogs"). The bike use a campagnolo super record (front and rear derailler. The rear one is perfurated... maybe to make it lighter; brake levers, headset), a pantograph cinelli stem (similar to the one at the pic but not with "Eddie M"), a NJS FiveGold saddle, two FIAMME Hard Silver 24h rims (very light rims), a cinelli dropbar...

i think this one will have to be painted... i'll have to "strip&clean" her first to see the real condition of the frame.



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Old 17th May 2011   #45400
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^ oooooooh! also a ZEUS Cranks and chainrings and campagnolo super record pedals
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