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Old 30th April 2012   #60801
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I concur. I have some on my Mottram with a quill. Although, I just received some Deda Elementi 215 shallow drops from Crispndry which look pretty good, with the advantage of cable grooves front and back. These will be on my GT build with a quill, and STIs.
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Old 30th April 2012   #60803
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I ought to start a thread with a listing of 26.0 clamp compact bars, the question keeps coming up.

The main options are (in ascending price order):

Bontrager SSR VR-C (black only, no cable grooves)

Soma Hwy One (black or silver, front cable grooves)

Deda Elementi 215 (black only, cable grooves front and back - although the curve is round, a bit more like a shallow drop TDF than a modern compact)

Nitto M106 NAS (black or silver, front cable grooves)
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Old 30th April 2012   #60804
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Any that come in 460mm wide?
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Old 30th April 2012   #60805
6ptdonor
 
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My GT build has stalled momentarily. I'm keeping an eye out for some 10 speed triple STIs and found reference to Shimano R703s. My understanding is that they're Ultegra 6600 level, is that correct? As I was looking out for 105 5603s, I'm thinking these would be a good alternative, as they're heavily reduced at an online store (£128).

I guess I'm looking for some reassurance that these would be worth it?
you could always buy my complete ultegra 6603 groupset...
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Old 30th April 2012   #60806
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Still waiting on infos! :)
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Old 30th April 2012   #60807
Regaldonor
 
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Any that come in 460mm wide?
Widest I've seen is 44cm. There are some Nittos that go that wide (e.g. the Randonneur and the Noodle) but not in a compact shape with short reach, etc.

I loved my 44cm Noodles (which also come in 46cm) but they extended too far forward for my T-rex arms.

Edit: Am assuming you mean 46cm centre-to-centre of the bar ends, which is how the Nitto and Soma bars are measured. The Deda bars listed above seem to be made in 46cm but that's quoted as outside-to-outside.

Edit 2: Soma have said they are starting to make a 46cm version (currently 3rd comment from bottom) so I guess if you ask SJS nicely they can let you know when they're available.

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Old 30th April 2012   #60808
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Never mind...

Last edited by FixedCheese; 30th April 2012 at 20:58. Reason: Too lazy
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Old 30th April 2012   #60809
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anyone want a full Sram Rival groupset? 2011, english BB, short cage rear mech, 34.9 band on front, 39/53 chainrings, no cassette?
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Old 30th April 2012   #60810
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The Bontrager ones Spotter and Superjoe have look good, think the are ssr something?
I used the bontrager one and its good. it has two side mounts and an extra set of bolts down the middle so you can attach a pump or like my just one central bottle cage as I did not need two.
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Old 30th April 2012   #60811
scorch
cheers guys, i knew i could count on you!
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Old 30th April 2012   #60812
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anyone want a full Sram Rival groupset? 2011, english BB, short cage rear mech, 34.9 band on front, 39/53 chainrings, no cassette?
How many numbers in the equation?
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Old 30th April 2012   #60813
sumo
 
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250 squids?
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Old 30th April 2012   #60814
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I have a freezer full of squid that I'm cleaning tonight for dinner later!

I would but I'm not in a purchasing position at the mo.
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Old 30th April 2012   #60815
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what would you do and what bar would you choose? i mean, still with quill stem?
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I ought to start a thread with a listing of 26.0 clamp compact bars, the question keeps coming up.
Also...

Deda Newton - Drop: 135 Reach:80
Deda Piega - Drop:143 Reach:87
Origin-8 Pro-lite compact handlebar Drop: 120 Reach: 70
Also ITM Super Italia pro 260 may be worth a look.
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Old 30th April 2012   #60816
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guys,

if you wanted to run one of these nice modern compact road bars with shallow drop and a "classic" drop curve (not ergo) on a quill-stem setup, what would you do and what bar would you choose? i mean, still with quill stem?
thanks
FSA Omega (but oversized, maybe someone else was wondering though)
http://www.google.co.uk/products/cat...wAQ#ps-sellers
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Old 30th April 2012   #60817
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^^ those two Deda bars look more like an ergo bend than a shallow compact curve, but the others are a good shout - not sure if the ITMs are still made though.
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Old 30th April 2012   #60818
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guys,

if you wanted to run one of these nice modern compact road bars with shallow drop and a "classic" drop curve (not ergo) on a quill-stem setup, what would you do and what bar would you choose? i mean, still with quill stem?
thanks
The Botranger ones are really good, like people have said, but I use a pair on Nitto B115AA bars, which are really nice, heres what they look like on me bike, but I don't know if this is what you are looking for.
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Old 30th April 2012   #60819
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Thinking about it, you need a shim for a road stem 26mm, and there are no cable grooves, they are in fact quite inferior if what you are after is mentioned above, but just incase its not...
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Old 30th April 2012   #60820
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Also ITM Super Italia pro 260 may be worth a look.
My ruler says drop 16cm, reach 11.5cm, roughly.
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Old 30th April 2012   #60821
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guys,

if you wanted to run one of these nice modern compact road bars with shallow drop and a "classic" drop curve (not ergo) on a quill-stem setup, what would you do and what bar would you choose? i mean, still with quill stem?
thanks
Not modern, but fits the bill. Reissue GdI: http://www.wiggle.co.uk/cinelli-giro-ditalia-64-alloy-handlebar/

Expensive though.
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Old 30th April 2012   #60822
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I've got the Giros on my Mercian. I find them really comfy but, as mentioned above, they're a traditional shape

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Old 30th April 2012   #60823
b'jammindonor
 
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The Frame that shouldn't be, is continuing to be the Bike that shouldn't be, and now has got a new Wheelset and Seatpin....



Crying shame to wear those rims (dark brown Araya's) but plan is to fit some Chorus Skeleton Calipers, wrap up the bars....and then probably have to sell it, hah!... BUT, until that day comes, a nice summer SS to enjoy :)
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Old 30th April 2012   #60824
rive gauchedonor
 
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Also ITM Super Italia pro 260 may be worth a look.
favourite bars, available in deep, shallow and anatomic, 25.8 clamp, up to 460 wide, grooved front and rear. frequently come up on teh bay for less than £20

Last edited by rive gauche; 30th April 2012 at 19:58.
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Old 30th April 2012   #60825
scorch
awwwww... some people pay good $$$ to have those rims for their pista rides, but now you go and slam them with brakes on a "nice summer SS"... (((
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Old 30th April 2012   #60826
scorch
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I've got the Giros on my Mercian. I find them really comfy but, as mentioned above, they're a traditional shape
what are the levers please?
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Old 30th April 2012   #60827
b'jammindonor
 
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awwwww... some people pay good $$$ to have those rims for their pista rides.....

Hmmm, How "good" I wonder....maybe i'll rebuild them before the brakes come.


^
Record Carbon Levers, I believe Gleb
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Old 30th April 2012   #60828
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Yep, bought them from that^ man!

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Old 30th April 2012   #60829
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^^^ that's well nice. Has the back rim got some kind of camo paintjob or is it just the photo?
No camo, just good old fashioned dirt.

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Hobo why did you sell a Mash to buy a Vigorelli. .
[quote=Malaysian;2857468]Ha, funny that you've ended up with a vig. Nice build, really suits the black parts... does it ride pretty much the same as the Mash then?

This is far more comfortable than the Mash. My 30 commute is not causing my back any hassle anymore. It seems to be a lot more twitchy than the Mash, though this may because im no longer using the HED3.
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Old 30th April 2012   #60830
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Also ITM Super Italia pro 260 may be worth a look.
No Super Italias but Planet X have heaps of NOS ITM bars here.

I'm using some 140mm drop, 80mm reach Ergo Power TDF bars that fit the bill if you're after shallow and short bars.

I wouldn't buy old used 'bars from eBay. The 1st you'll know of their history will be when they fail.
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Old 30th April 2012   #60831
Ivanskavinsky
Herne Hill project done:-)

Going to Herne Hill this Saturday for 1st track session since I was a teenager! So I built this up from stuff I had (wheels, bars, saddle, etc) and got a bog standard Dolan Precursa frame which seems pretty nice for the price.
Shall be making a fool of myself at the induction and bringing along a couple of mates to make sure I can't lie about how it went...

Maybe see some of you down there.
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Old 30th April 2012   #60832
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That looks great. Have fun.

You're stem of choice implies you eventually intend to go very, very fast.

:)
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Old 30th April 2012   #60833
Ivanskavinsky
Nope, stupid gorilla arms and long torso (= short legs) means much wind resistance :-( I'll give it a go though:-) Looking forward to it immensely.
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Old 30th April 2012   #60834
miro_odonor
 
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Still it was a good idea going for the -17° stem, you have the option of going lower just by moving some spacers.
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Old 30th April 2012   #60835
Ivanskavinsky
Thanks:-)
It's comfortable in the current position for over an hour so I'll see how I go and move down a spacer or two if it feels okay after a few sessions.
If I survive the 1st one...
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Old 30th April 2012   #60836
miro_odonor
 
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Session 3 will be all about showing who's boss by bringing out the Old Guy Power!!!
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Old 30th April 2012   #60837
Ivanskavinsky
Nice, thanks:-)
Think I missed on the testosterone and superior grit...
Am feck stupid and not bothered about losing though:-)
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Old 30th April 2012   #60838
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Old 30th April 2012   #60839
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Looking good!
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Old 1st May 2012   #60840
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I guess I'm looking for some reassurance that these would be worth it?
Yes, Ultegra quality with neutral branding and shims for girls and other people with small hands. AFAIK, if you leave out the shims the reach is the same as all the other man-sized levers.
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Old 1st May 2012   #60841
Thuekr
Spokecards for Saturday "Plastik-Fantastic" ride - I am so stoked (excite) to see what kind of fancy HHSB-moves and (stupid)spokes people will bring for the event.
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Old 1st May 2012   #60842
rive gauchedonor
 
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are those shoes spd..?
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Old 1st May 2012   #60843
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Thuekr where is your plastic fantastic ride? Be sure to get some good photos....
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Old 1st May 2012   #60844
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Thuekr where is your plastic fantastic ride? Be sure to get some good photos....
I will - I am lookin' forward to show my stupid(fast) build :)
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Old 1st May 2012   #60845
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Yes, Ultegra quality with neutral branding and shims for girls and other people with small hands. AFAIK, if you leave out the shims the reach is the same as all the other man-sized levers.
5700 levers come with shims for reach too (or at least, the last pair I saw did).
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Old 1st May 2012   #60846
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Spokecards for Saturday "Plastik-Fantastic" ride - I am so stoked (excite) to see what kind of fancy HHSB-moves and (stupid)spokes people will bring for the event
they're going to have to be bloody big to wedge them in a tri-spoke
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Old 1st May 2012   #60847
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they're going to have to be bloody big to wedge them in a tri-spoke
Houston - we have a problem....

.....[it comes to mind as a typical HHSB-half-solution-mindset-4-real] :D
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Old 1st May 2012   #60848
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I've got spokecards on my disc #hhsbwin
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Old 1st May 2012   #60849
eyebrowsdonor
 
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New projects to be started at a snails pace whilst revision goes on:
Get Telfer back from having track ends fitted- turn into fixed TT bike.
Transfer Groupset from Ti bike to more sensible distance Alu frame (ready for move at end of summer to grandparents as my bike there- as I spend a lot of time there at the moment and it makes sense)
Ti bike to be turned fixed and left in London as road/ fix there (not having a bike there sucks)
Go see Scherrit for a bike fitting- finalise secret bike dimensions for late summer.
Decide if I want an SS MTB or a CX bike... I suspect CX.

End result:
Nottingham: beater, road, TT(summer) or CX/MTB(winter)
London: Road fixed and the TT or CX depending on season
Devon (grandparents): Decent, but budget roadie with potential for guards/rack.

Budget- not very much.
Spare parts- lots.
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Old 1st May 2012   #60850
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This is my 2011 Fuji Track, made a few changes, new forks, new rear wheel, new saddle, new stem/bars and new pedals. Next up is to sort out some compact drops and brake levers/hoods I've got, to use for longer rides. Also I need to sort the brake out, I've changed the fork and now the caliper won't stay still, going to go to my lbs when I've not got so much uni work on and sort it out.

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