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Old 18th April 2012   #60101
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^^^^ that'll do it.

The Seta is perfect.
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Old 18th April 2012   #60102
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I would do some research barmeybear. I mean other than asking strangers via the net. Have a think about what you want, and look into what each of the builders offer.

Feather – lug work, Nagasawa – stunning finishes, Rourke – amazing fit, Mather – understated detailing, Cooper – fillet brazing etc, etc.
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Old 18th April 2012   #60103
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Don't get a Nag then, it would look mental.
Indeed it would, my mind is made, still want a nag though...but no modern group set would look right on it
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Old 18th April 2012   #60104
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Dura Ace.
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Old 18th April 2012   #60105
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The two word answer to most questions.

;)
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Old 18th April 2012   #60106
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Done (almost!). Just sorted the indexing out. Need to go for a test ride when it's not raining and take a picture with the valve extenders aligned. Also, i reckon there's another 10mm I can get away with moving the rear wheel forwards.


The distance from seat to bars is immense, how tall are you?! Maybe just the angle...

Either way I love it!
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Old 18th April 2012   #60107
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OldSkoolRacer becomes defiantly new-school.
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Old 18th April 2012   #60108
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Build this thing for 50 euro's for a collegue of mine, it's really great fun to ride!



Only needs a new chain, this one is really much to short.
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Old 18th April 2012   #60109
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I would do some research barmeybear. I mean other than asking strangers via the net. Have a think about what you want, and look into what each of the builders offer.

Feather – lug work, Nagasawa – stunning finishes, Rourke – amazing fit, Mather – understated detailing, Cooper – fillet brazing etc, etc.
Very true, and I am after some lug work which is why i looked at feather in the first place. Nagasawa finishes are lovely but very samey samey I feel like my bike was one of hundreds. I believe also that feathers finishes are lovely and ferry unique, I am a fan o the way he writes feather on the downtube aswell. Very sleek.
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Old 18th April 2012   #60110
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Lol, cheers guys, I love it too although all I have done so far is stare at it. I'm 6ft1 but I measured the saddle to BB centre and it's the same as my daily as a starting point, I'm sure it will need adjusting as I get used to it. Also the drop isn't too bad when you consider my elbows will be on the pads.
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Old 18th April 2012   #60111
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The two word answer to most questions.

;)
Very true, I was also looking at this swaying towards SRAM though
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Old 18th April 2012   #60112
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I mean other than asking strangers via the net.
the only right way innit
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Old 18th April 2012   #60113
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It is
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Old 18th April 2012   #60114
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Matt that looks rather ace. The red cabling isn't as OTT as I was expecting it to be, just a shame you don't have black brakes.
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Old 18th April 2012   #60115
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The red cabling looks sweet, black brakes FTW but sram red only come in silver right?
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Old 18th April 2012   #60116
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not any more.
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Old 18th April 2012   #60117
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In that case, also want these on it

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Old 18th April 2012   #60118
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Argh, don't start making me want a different groupset already!

I'm more than happy with the titanium against the black, stops things getting sucked into it's void never to return!
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Old 18th April 2012   #60119
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no I agree, black has been done to death, your bike is refreshing
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Old 18th April 2012   #60120
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Feather is 11 months lead time, which is more than I had thought, I really wanted it or the end of the year, but what do you expect, there are only so many custom builders in the uk. Guess its back the the drawing board
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Old 18th April 2012   #60121
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Feather is 11 months lead time, which is more than I had thought, I really wanted it or the end of the year, but what do you expect, there are only so many custom builders in the uk. Guess its back the the drawing board
it's a custom bike, what d'you expect.

It mean that you can spend 11 months riding properly and then have a better idea of what you want for a fixie skidder.

IMHO, the 11 months waitlist is a blessing in disguised.
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Old 18th April 2012   #60122
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it's a custom bike, what d'you expect.

It mean that you can spend 11 months riding properly and then have a better idea of what you want for a fixie skidder.

IMHO, the 11 months waitlist is a blessing in disguised.
Confused, I'm ordering a road frame
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Old 18th April 2012   #60123
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meaning that the 11 months waiting mean you'll be able to have a good think about what you want from that road bike of your.

Forum boss did the same with his Mather, I remember it got drop handlebar originally before it become a pastel Charge Mixer.
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Old 18th April 2012   #60124
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Indeed it would, my mind is made, still want a nag though...but no modern group set would look right on it
Campag with older square taper Record cranks would be fine.
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Old 18th April 2012   #60125
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Yeah it would nice shout manc

I understand why I would wait but I already have a fair idea of what I want. And I'm not patient enough for that 11 months, especially when a bag is 6 I reckon they're be about the same price
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Old 18th April 2012   #60126
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I would do some research barmeybear. I mean other than asking strangers via the net. Have a think about what you want, and look into what each of the builders offer.

Feather – lug work, Nagasawa – stunning finishes, Rourke – amazing fit, Mather – understated detailing, Cooper – fillet brazing etc, etc.
All that, that I can see, is covered by just one builder (I'm sure there are many that can do all this but) - Chris Bishop.

I've been seriously impressed with his frames ever since I first saw them a couple of years ago and have been following his work since then. I know he's only been building a few years but his work, his bikes are amazing!! If I was to go custom, he's very high on my list of builders.

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Feather is 11 months lead time, which is more than I had thought, I really wanted it or the end of the year, but what do you expect, there are only so many custom builders in the uk. Guess its back the the drawing board
Have you seen Bishop Bikes? Not in the UK (Baltimore, USA) but I've emailed him about a possible future build, you could get measured up by somewhere with experience in the UK and he could build it for you. He's even been known to hand deliver bikes to his customers over here.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bishopbikes/sets/
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Old 18th April 2012   #60127
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OSR... That is nice. Do want.
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Old 18th April 2012   #60128
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As a Feather owner, this is my take on it: Ricky is a very talented framebuilder who puts immense attention to detail into his work. What he doesn't have is decades of experience building bikes for racers and tourers, like Rourke or Roberts. But those guys have their methods and are much bigger operations - they either can't or won't do the sort of work Ricky routinely puts into his frames.

So it very much depends what you want - a 'proven' bike with custom geometry or something more unique. Both are made with skill and passion. I think there's space for both those bikes, even in one stable.
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Old 18th April 2012   #60129
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Whether there is mony for both is a different question ;) I'll contact Ricky again, who seems like a really nice guy, and see how quickly he can get a frame together, im already drooling over a black frame with brushed raw stainless lugs and fork, ahhh. I he can get one done before the year is out I'm sold, of not then I may have to look elsewhere. While Bishop look lovely I know that they are immensely expensive.

Regal do you have a road of track?

Last edited by barmeybear; 18th April 2012 at 21:55. Reason: Poor typing skills
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Old 18th April 2012   #60130
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Indeed it would, my mind is made, still want a nag though...but no modern group set would look right on it
Did you not see the Ron Cooper with SRAM?
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Old 18th April 2012   #60131
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There's no way I'd let anyone sway my mind if I'd opted for custom. Fair enough getting opinions but that's all they'd ever be to me. Once you've made a commitment like that you should see it through, otherwise you could end up with something you regret.
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Old 18th April 2012   #60132
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I love the modern way of choosing a steel road frame. When I was doing it, it was all a bit different.

1: Get train/tube to Kilburn
2: Pick cheapest OTP frame in my size from selection hanging up in J D Whisker's
3: Ride for next 26 years and counting.

Advantages: no waiting time
Disadvantages: none that I can see. I still love my old Hirame Osaka Pro, well worth the £120 investment.
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Old 18th April 2012   #60133
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I'm just going to wait for Henry to get his Oak frame, then nick it whilst he makes coffee.
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Old 18th April 2012   #60134
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Has anyone here tried using a 31.8mm clamp stem on a 26mm bar with shims before?

I couldn't find a decent (that I liked the look of too) 25.4mm or 26mm clamp stem to fit in on my salve(ish) current project so got a new Rithcey WCS 4-axis, but still being very indecisive about bars and very tempted by either some Syntace Stratos 200 or Nitto equivalent which obviously have smaller clamp size than the Deda Debar, or even the Cinelli MASH bars, which I'm loath to get on principle, but are a good shape.

Was wondering if anyone have tried reducing shims and if they looked too ridiculous, or more importantly, if they slipped at all?
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Old 18th April 2012   #60135
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It's not just about size, that's easy enough for a skilled metal-worker to achieve with proper drawings. It's about tube selection, how tube joins influence handling, tailoring build to rider weight, size etc...
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Old 18th April 2012   #60136
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Has anyone here tried using a 31.8mm clamp stem on a 26mm bar with shims before?

I couldn't find a decent (that I liked the look of too) 25.4mm or 26mm clamp stem to fit in on my salve(ish) current project so got a new Rithcey WCS 4-axis, but still being very indecisive about bars and very tempted by either some Syntace Stratos 200 or Nitto equivalent which obviously have smaller clamp size than the Deda Debar or even the Cinelli MASH bars, which I'm loath to get on principle, but are a good shape.

Was wondering if anyone have tried reducing shims and if they looked too ridiculous, or more importantly, if they slipped at all?
go for these. http://www.lfgss.com/thread81813-4.html

love the shape, cheaper than MASH, OS clamp.
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Old 18th April 2012   #60137
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Done (almost!). Just sorted the indexing out. Need to go for a test ride when it's not raining and take a picture with the valve extenders aligned. Also, i reckon there's another 10mm I can get away with moving the rear wheel forwards.

Lol mate, that is actually insane... It came out even more rad than I expected.

The streets of Gotham will be safe again!
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Old 18th April 2012   #60138
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I love the modern way of choosing a steel road frame. When I was doing it, it was all a bit different.

1: Get train/tube to Kilburn
2: Pick cheapest OTP frame in my size from selection hanging up in J D Whisker's
3: Ride for next 26 years and counting.

Advantages: no waiting time
Disadvantages: none that I can see. I still love my old Hirame Osaka Pro, well worth the £120 investment.
Is your name Kinky Cowboy on another forum?

I ask because this was top result when googling Hirame Osaka Pro

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My 1986 Hirame(Kuwahara) Osaka Pro in Ishiwata 022 is coming up for
its 20th birthday. In other words, it's a very old but reliable tube
set. At the time, it was considered roughly equivalent to Reynolds
501. I paid GBP120 for it new, and I'd happily pay the same for a mint
NOS one if I broke mine just because I like the kit I've got on it and
could keep my old parts, which wouldn't go on a modern frame.

Kinky Cowboy

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Old 18th April 2012   #60139
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It's not just about size, that's easy enough for a skilled metal-worker to achieve with proper drawings. It's about tube selection, how tube joins influence handling, tailoring build to rider weight, size etc...

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Originally Posted by Ricky Feather
...the bike is a mix of reynolds 853 and 725 and Columbus life and Spirit and also features hand carved pacenti lugs and fork crown...
http://feathercycles.blogspot.co.uk/

Although, I'm not sold on some of his stems.
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Old 18th April 2012   #60140
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bling bling
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Old 18th April 2012   #60141
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Is your name Kinky Cowboy on another forum?

I ask because this was top result when googling Hirame Osaka Pro
Oop.
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Old 18th April 2012   #60142
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go for these. http://www.lfgss.com/thread81813-4.html

love the shape, cheaper than MASH, OS clamp.
Yeah, I did check them out, along with just about every other brands pursuit/base bars but like the look of either classic bars like the Syntace that give a bit of a drop from near the clamp, or maybe going with the new flowing Deda Debars (which I do like).

Problem is I'm a perfectionist to the point of anal retentive when it comes to setups, and I really want this bike to be a perfect mix of form and function and am convinced it can be done without compromise to either, or at least to my tastes.
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Old 18th April 2012   #60143
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it's a custom bike, what d'you expect.

It mean that you can spend 11 months riding properly and then have a better idea of what you want for a fixie skidder.

IMHO, the 11 months waitlist is a blessing in disguised.
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There's no way I'd let anyone sway my mind if I'd opted for custom. Fair enough getting opinions but that's all they'd ever be to me. Once you've made a commitment like that you should see it through, otherwise you could end up with something you regret.
This is a fair point, and I agree completely with it, which is why I won't be buying a cooper or rouke, I was interested to know what people thought between Nagasawa or Feather, these are the two that I have to choose between, so wanted anybopinions. As it is I will most likely buy a feather road frame, black gloss with raw stainless lugs and fork, which in my opinion would look sublime! No swaying me, my mid is made up...as long as it can be made before the year is out
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Old 18th April 2012   #60144
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I couldn't find a decent (that I liked the look of too) 25.4mm or 26mm clamp stem to fit in on my salve(ish) current project so got a new Rithcey WCS 4-axis,
Why not just get a 26.0 WCS 4-Axis
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Old 18th April 2012   #60145
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If I knew that I could get my hands on one easily I would have, but also wanted 110mm and 17/73 deg stem... and the new ones come in white! :D

Last edited by AngelD; 18th April 2012 at 22:58.
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Old 18th April 2012   #60146
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barmeybear, if you're going custom, try not to do it over the phone or net. Too many ways to fuck up, happened to me with Mercian. Though to be fair, there is the language issue too.
(I'm Canadian)
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Old 18th April 2012   #60148
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barmeybear, if you're going custom, try not to do it over the phone or net. Too many ways to fuck up, happened to me with Mercian. Though to be fair, there is the language issue too.
(I'm Canadian)
Haha I will defiantly go down to his workshop to sort things out if i officially take the plunge, I had a quick chat over the phone just to review options and pricing and to find out the lead times...11 months :(
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Old 18th April 2012   #60149
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how much have you drink apolloxl?
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Old 18th April 2012   #60150
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I'm just going to wait for Henry to get his Oak frame, then nick it whilst he makes coffee.
It will be too big for you, you lanky bastard.
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