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Old 23rd May 2008   #1
Junior Bruce
 
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Gear ratios for no brakes riding...

Is it easier to lock up the rear wheel with a smaller front drive chainring (42t or less) paired with a larger rear cog (18t+)?

Currently I'm riding 48t with 16t at the rear,
I'm unsure how it would compare if I changed my setup...

As always thanks for your help in advance!


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Old 23rd May 2008   #2
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Yes it is. Your ratio is over 80 inches and 70 or less would be much easier on your knees.

Some Fixdgearlondon riders slide around on low or sub 60s

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Old 23rd May 2008   #3
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Is it easier to lock up the rear wheel with a smaller front drive chainring (42t or less) paired with a larger rear cog (18t+)?

Currently I'm riding 48t with 16t at the rear,
I'm unsure how it would compare if I changed my setup...

As always thanks for your help in advance!

A smaller front will make things easier by itself (that is without getting a larger cog)
A larger rear cog will also make things easier by itself.

My point is that you do not have to change both to make skid stopping easier.

So instead of changing both your cog and your chainring by a couple of teeth or so - you can make a bigger change to just either the cog or the chainring and get the same result (get the same gear inches).

It would be cheaper to just drop your chainring down 4 or 6 teeth to achieve an easier skid as your chain length would shrink (so you don't have to buy a longer chain) and you don't have to buy a new larger cog.

Use this gear calculator to work out gear inches:

http://software.bareknucklebrigade.c...it.applet.html
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Old 23rd May 2008   #4
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I hope you're not riding brakeless on 48x16. What you riding, a bianchi pista?

lower the chainring to 42, or buy an 18/19t cog. and a brake.
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Old 23rd May 2008   #5
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If you don't know how to skid, you shouldnt be riding brakeless.
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Old 23rd May 2008   #6
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50/14

accept no substitutes
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Old 23rd May 2008   #7
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+1.

it's the way forward.
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Old 23rd May 2008   #8
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it'll certainly ensure continuous forward motion, oh yes.
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Old 23rd May 2008   #9
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hip hop don't stop
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Old 23rd May 2008   #10
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stopping is for communists.
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Old 23rd May 2008   #11
pj (pj)
just to state the obvious:

48:16 = one skid patch. not a good idea.

48:17 = 17 skid patches, much better. much more friendly gear. but still quick.
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Old 25th May 2008   #12
moose76
hhsb and trick rider 42-18 ,42-19
winter gear keep legs warm.44-17
summer gear 46-17. good nice gear
ally cats..44-16
track gear 46-14
race gear 50-16, 50 -15
hope this helps..m
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Old 25th May 2008   #13
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hhsb and trick rider 42-18 ,42-19
winter gear keep legs warm.44-17
summer gear 46-17. good nice gear
ally cats..44-16
track gear 46-14
race gear 50-16, 50 -15
hope this helps..m
I'd definitely recommend a selection of gears for different conditions. Especially handy if you ride double-fixed. You can get used to different ratios but also have something to fall back on if you've got a really long ride and you need comfortable gears, or you're messing around and need a shorter gearing.

I find 44-16 works well for everything. Good from a standing start, you can spin out on the flats but it's not so big you can't slow down with leg braking (although I also run a front brake for emergencies), and I can skid stop when I want to.

The 'when I want to' bit is important - when you run a lower ratio it's important to be under control when you brake. I've tried lower ratios where the moment I've started leg braking, I've lost traction in the rear end - which can be very disconcerting.
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Old 25th May 2008   #14
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If you have to ask the question you shouldn't be riding brakeless.

Mine:
46x16 brakeless nice weather bike
44x16 pub/fun/rain brakeless bike
48x16 distance bike w/front brake(that doubles as the H/H bike sans brake)

Last edited by |³|MA3K; 25th May 2008 at 11:28. Reason: ................................................................
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Old 27th May 2008   #15
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Thanks for all the advice everyone!
Much appreciated.

To answer the questions, I am riding a Vivalo, with 48 x 16 currently brakeless.
But unlike you guys I'm not living in the hustle and bustle of London.
It's pretty calm on the way to and from work in sunny Southsea.

Thanks for the advice and info!
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Old 27th May 2008   #16
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I'll jump on this.

44/22 - Polo bike
44/16 - Commuter/Hack/Throw around and bunnyhop everywhere bike
47/17 - Nice Bike for on the road
47/14 - Nicebike at HH
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Old 27th May 2008   #17
haj
I'm riding 44/17 on my daily, and 45/17 on my Vivalo.. brakeless (well, the daily commute has a brake, but I didn't use it once this year).. it's about 69", seems to be quite a nice compromise.
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Old 27th May 2008   #18
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I should point out those are all brakeless gear inches.
I also ride a 54GI offroad (with brakes).
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Old 27th May 2008   #19
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50/14

accept no substitutes
To quote build... 'epic ratio'
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Old 14th June 2008   #20
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20/100 if you park your bike on platform 11 at Waterloo.
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Old 14th June 2008   #21
briankwan
mine
48/18
48/19
49/18
49/19
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Old 13th November 2008   #22
DRS
What about hills - I live in the south lake district area and want to ride fixed - any gear recommendations.

Much love
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Old 13th November 2008   #23
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One that lets you get over the hills and not die going down them. 65"*


*I've never been to see your lakes, nor do I have any idea where they are other than oop norf.
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Old 13th November 2008   #24
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49*20 on the road
49*14 on the track

FTW
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Old 13th November 2008   #25
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Where in the Lakes? My folks have a B&B in Lindale - nr Grange.
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Old 13th November 2008   #26
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44 17 all day
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Old 13th November 2008   #27
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44 17 all day
Same

Last edited by Rosmal; 4th August 2009 at 02:45.
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Old 14th November 2008   #28
haj
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