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2011-02-25 - Riders Down, Critical Mass, Porto Alegre, Brasil
 
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Old 26th February 2011   #1
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2011-02-25 - Riders Down, Critical Mass, Porto Alegre, Brasil

Maybe should go in Rider(s) Down. Awful news from Brasil:

http://zerohora.clicrbs.com.br/zeroh...D=a3221536.xml

http://www.correiodopovo.com.br/Noti...Noticia=261933

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Old 26th February 2011   #2
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That looks bad. Could you translate the main facts for those of us who don't have Portuguese?
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Old 26th February 2011   #3
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I can't translate, but picked this up from a friends Facebook...

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Porto Alegre Brasil Critical Mass - a motorist wiped out about 20 cyclists - there were bodies lying on the floor none of them dead but they could die later in hospital
She took that picture (and more, not of bodies thankfully). There's a youtube vid of folks reaction, but again all in Portuguese.

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Old 26th February 2011   #4
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How awful. Thoughts going out to the riders.
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Old 26th February 2011   #5
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Happily my friend has updated her facebook to say all injured are out of hospital, so none too serious.

The articles seem to suggest it was an accident, in reality my friend reports an angry driver accelerating thru the mass as they set-off, they'd only been riding a few hundred metres.

Undeterred, they're gonna reclaim the streets again on Monday.
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Old 26th February 2011   #6
vélo libre
^if that's true (that it was intentional), people gotta chill!

hope everyone's ok.
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Old 26th February 2011   #7
tika
in the article says that it was on purpose and the driver run away. the cyclis identified the driver and threatened to do to his house (they should have done it) (second link correio do povo) and this things happen in our lovely south american countries where there is no justice and nobody gives a toss about anything apart from being corrupt and seapling the poeple's money. luckily enough nobody was badly hurt (politicians are shit)
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Old 26th February 2011   #8
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^if that's true (that it was intentional), people gotta chill!

hope everyone's ok.
Unfortunately, people do get stressed about brief delays and momentarily seem to forget what harm they can do with heavy vehicles. That said, such incidents, much as they often make the headlines, are vanishingly rare. People generally know that if they hit someone, it'll be a lot more trouble for them than it's worth.
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Old 26th February 2011   #9
j.m.f
nice and calmly reasoned on here Oliver,
however I have had conversations with bus drivers where they laughed off bad driving with stuff like ' ah mate, if I do you ill only get a ban and a fine'
theres nut jobs out there.

be careful.
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Old 26th February 2011   #10
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Jason, in many cases that sort of rubbish is just bravado. I do know very well that cases exist in which people act on that sort of thing, but this is usually due to underlying psychological problems and acting them out. I'm just saying that they are actually few and far between. Most people are decent and will not aim to harm you.
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Old 27th February 2011   #12
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Happily my friend has updated her facebook to say all injured are out of hospital, so none too serious.

The articles seem to suggest it was an accident, in reality my friend reports an angry driver accelerating thru the mass as they set-off, they'd only been riding a few hundred metres.

Undeterred, they're gonna reclaim the streets again on Monday.
looks intentional to me - no attempt to stop. Driver removed license plates and ditched the car.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZARjU...mbedded#at=137
http://www.verbicidemagazine.com/blo...re-brazil/1341

Last edited by Velomancer; 27th February 2011 at 02:36.
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Old 27th February 2011   #14
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It's at 0:58 in the above video. Utterly shocking, there's no doubt whatsoever that it's intentional.

Heart goes out to those affected and their friends and families.
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Old 27th February 2011   #15
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Holy Fuck.
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Old 27th February 2011   #16
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That's horrible…
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Old 27th February 2011   #17
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That's horrendous :(

Youtube comment trolling is in full effect also.
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Old 27th February 2011   #18
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Oh my God, that is absolutely horrific. Let's hope this person is caught.
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Old 27th February 2011   #19
Jess|e
wow, even after reading about it I wasn't expecting that. Absolutely sickening. I hope everyone eventually gets back on their bikes.

Espero que melhores logo!!
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Old 27th February 2011   #20
Rodrigorcp
English subtitles:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRgiI...embedded#at=13
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Old 27th February 2011   #21
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thats horrific ,I hope whoever it was gets whats coming to them .
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Old 27th February 2011   #22
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I seldom use my car, I keep it for specific uses, I don't really see it as a viable transport solution in a crowded city. Seeing one used as a weapon on us by the mentally unstable makes me crave the day when the oil has run out and this tyranny of drivers ends. Mass access to motor vehicles has been for less than fifty years, I think they will have guzzled the World's resources within the next ten, fuckin roll on.
My thoughts are with the injured and their families.
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Old 27th February 2011   #23
ron jeremy
Critical Mass Brazil

Hi, not sure if this has been done already, (couldn't find it in the search feature), pretty fucking horrific if you ask me, happened Friday in Brazil


more info here

as I said sorry if its been posted before,

David
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Old 27th February 2011   #24
OmarLittle
http://www.lfgss.com/thread60361.html#post1981563 your search did not seem to extend to 8 posts down the page!
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Old 27th February 2011   #25
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http://www.lfgss.com/thread60361.html

Nightmare situation.
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Old 27th February 2011   #26
ron jeremy
I did search so apologies again for the double post
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Old 27th February 2011   #27
jaitch
I didnt know what this was about before I saw the video on another thread. just expecting it to be a corraling of riders by the police maybe with some argy bargy. did not expect that. horrific. thoughts go out to all the riders that were hurt and had to witness this.
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Old 27th February 2011   #28
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Happily my friend has updated her facebook to say all injured are out of hospital, so none too serious.

The articles seem to suggest it was an accident, in reality my friend reports an angry driver accelerating thru the mass as they set-off, they'd only been riding a few hundred metres.

Undeterred, they're gonna reclaim the streets again on Monday.
RHB, would your friend be up to talking to a bike-friendly journo about this? If they're doing another ride tomorrow that's a bold and brave move.
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Old 27th February 2011   #29
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Give us some warning please. That was not something I want to be surprised to see if it can be helped.
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Old 28th February 2011   #30
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Terrible news
Some coverage here too: http://road.cc/content/news/31464-dr...urbing-content
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Old 28th February 2011   #31
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"scum, subhuman scum!"
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Old 28th February 2011   #32
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I really wonder what was going through the driver's mind when he made the decision to accelerate. Was he a genuine psychopath who was late for his tea (unlikely). Did he want to teach the cyclists a lesson and if so what? Perhaps 'don't dare get in my way or hold me up'? Was it something else and if so what? I wonder if he's seen the clip now on Youtube, if he feels any remorse for what he's done. Don't get me wrong I'm not empathising with the driver I just find it really hard to imagine what was going through his mind at the time, was it simply blind rage with no real thought?

If as a poster above says the car was ditched and plates removed what is the likelihood of the driver being caught? In a country where the police seem pretty preoccupied with things like ongoing shoot outs with drug barons how high up their list of priorities will an incident like this be? That and the fact that corruption is rife in the Brazilian police force, bribery and so on, it doesn't bode well. Let's just hope that he is caught and justice is served.
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Old 28th February 2011   #33
markbikeslondon
Just horrific, those poor people.

Thoughts with those riders and here is hoping they make a full recovery.
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Old 28th February 2011   #34
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appalling behaviour and attitude by the driver.. prayers and thoughts to all those injured or traumatised by this tragic event

al
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Old 28th February 2011   #35
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An update from a Brazilian friend says that the police are looking for the driver, who has been identified, and the incident is being treated as multiple attempted homicides, not as an accident.
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Old 28th February 2011   #36
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As well it should, nothing accidental about that. Clear to see it was intentional, absolutely horrific.
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Old 28th February 2011   #37
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Sadly intimidation of cyclists happens far to often in Brasil. While i was living in Curitiba there was a spate of incidents of people being knocked off their bikes by kids using car floor mats to hit cyclists.
It is a sad case of affairs as the viewpoint of many people is that the car is the way forward, Curitiba has roughly 2million people, a great public transport system and near constant gridlock by people using cars far too much. But to many people the bike is seen as the mode of transport used by the poor, and as soon as people are old enough to drive they give up their bikes.However there are many people trying to change this viewpoint in every major city in Brasil, the sad fact of intimidation by car is a daily fact of their lives....
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Old 28th February 2011   #38
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Strange thing to hear from Curitiba, the city that pretty much pioneered environmental planning in Brazil.
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Old 28th February 2011   #39
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It did, but a vast influx of people has led to gridlock on the major routes during rush hours....that coupled with inconsiderate drivers and high accident rates!!
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Old 28th February 2011   #40
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Yeah, can't really expect one mayor's vision to hold for more than 30 years when the population radically changes.
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Old 28th February 2011   #41
mdizzle
 
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it is still a great system and works well, would work even better if there were less cars!!But i still love the city!
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Old 28th February 2011   #42
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I'd love to visit. What are the buses called?
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Old 28th February 2011   #43
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depends which ones....the big red double bendy busses? Bi-articulardos. The silver limited stop rapid buses....killing machines! To be honest i am not sure what their nicknames are....i will ask!
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Old 28th February 2011   #44
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the silver ones. it translated to "speedy" or something like that. it's been 12 years since I heard the name and I didn't really speak Spanish then so wouldn't have been able to translate from P to S.
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Old 28th February 2011   #45
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Christ that's horrible. Glad to see the cops taking it seriously. Crossing my fingers for the victims...
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Old 28th February 2011   #46
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@jayloo......ligeirinho=fast is the name![SIZE=1]


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Old 28th February 2011   #47
ron jeremy
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pretty fucking horrific if you ask me,
Sorry, i'll rephrase my warnings next time
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Old 28th February 2011   #48
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Accepted, and you should rephrase them. I read that and thought you were joking about something mundane. Anything, a create frame, a naked bike ride, anything might be called "pretty fucking horrific".
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Old 28th February 2011   #49
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You click something that says "Pretty fucking horrific" and want more warning? Sounds like warning enough to me.
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Old 28th February 2011   #50
tika
the guy is:

Motorista: RICARDO JOSÉ NEIS:

Nascimento: 19-Julho-1963. CPF: 467.901.440-72

Endereço: JOão Pessoa 1065 - Apto 418 - Cidade Baixa, Porto Alegre, RS, Brasil.
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CEP 900.400-00. (não sabemos se ainda mora nesse endereço)

ATIVIDADE: Funcionário do Banco Central. Email: ricardo.neis@bcb.com.br
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