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Old 28th April 2011   #351
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Just caught up on LBL and Fleche.. Gilbo, what a monster and that pic above of the Schleck 'zeros' sums them up nicely.
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Old 28th April 2011   #352
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Proper masterclass in how to dominate the final stages of a race.
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Old 1st May 2011   #353
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This is mental :
Giro : Stage 14 205km with 5000m climbing, next day Stage 15 229km with 6320m climbing and thats after two weeks of racing.
Inhumane.
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Old 1st May 2011   #354
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'That's entertainment.'
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Old 1st May 2011   #355
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Really? There has to be a limit somewhere though, no?
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Old 1st May 2011   #356
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It was a joke. :)
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Old 1st May 2011   #357
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Thing is, what do they do next year and then the year after that? The organisers will have to start to include stages which include contests like 'biggest bunny hop during a descent', or to ride up the Zoncolan no-handed.
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Old 1st May 2011   #358
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1920 Giro: Average stage length over 350km, with a 421 km kick in the balls on the last day from Trieste to Milan. And the closest thing they had to dope was a dose of grappa and a bit of liquorice dipped in some sheep's placenta.

229km...pfft. Kids nowadays.... with their carbon and HGH and EPO. Where;s the acronym for a big pair of hairy oversexed bollocks and some steel in your greased up legs?
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Old 1st May 2011   #359
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Oh shit... I just looked at 1913's. What the FUCK!?
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Old 1st May 2011   #360
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Look at all the rest days though, bunch of mummy's boys.
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Old 1st May 2011   #361
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Anyway, back to back mountain stages seperate the men from the boys, they should do three in a row as a matter of principle in every GT.
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Old 1st May 2011   #362
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I think i read that after 14 km of 10% climbing the tarmac stops on Monte Crostis the new climb. And in one weekend they will be climbing = Mt Everest +2500m.

For 2012 they have found another new climb something even worse than Zoncolan too.

Last edited by adoubletap; 1st May 2011 at 20:37.
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Old 1st May 2011   #363
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And in one weekend they will be climbing = Mt Everest +2500m.
Here : http://inrng.com/?p=2806
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Old 1st May 2011   #364
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For 2012 they have found another new climb something even worse than Zoncolan too.
This?
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Old 1st May 2011   #365
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yep that was it

The link in there to the article about the Stent Aria was the one, but it looks like it needs paving first

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average gradient of 16 percent and peaking at 28 percent and 15.5 kilometers long
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Old 1st May 2011   #366
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Anyway, back to back mountain stages seperate the men from the boys, they should do three in a row as a matter of principle in every GT.
Pfft Men from boys? That'll be the sprint stages.



vs.

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Old 1st May 2011   #367
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Cavendish'll be long gone by the time they hit the Giau.
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Old 1st May 2011   #368
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1920 Giro: Average stage length over 350km, with a 421 km kick in the balls on the last day from Trieste to Milan. And the closest thing they had to dope was a dose of grappa and a bit of liquorice dipped in some sheep's placenta.

229km...pfft. Kids nowadays.... with their carbon and HGH and EPO. Where;s the acronym for a big pair of hairy oversexed bollocks and some steel in your greased up legs?
What was their average speed, how many raced / finished, how organised events were ? I heard stories some riders would go to blacksmiths to fix their frames / forks during the race, and than win it. You could ride 400km and it would take you whole day but its how fast you go, no?

I am sure evolution only makes us better :)
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Old 1st May 2011   #369
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Cavendish'll be long gone by the time they hit the Giau.
I am sure he wont be alone at the back :)
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Old 1st May 2011   #370
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He'll be on the beach.
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Old 1st May 2011   #371
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By the way, Contador is also unhappy about the stages :)

http://velonews.competitor.com/2011/...2%80%99_170127
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Old 1st May 2011   #372
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Cavendish'll be long gone by the time they hit the Giau.
Are you sure? I heard he was going for KOM this year..
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Old 1st May 2011   #373
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By the way, Contador is also unhappy about the stages :)

http://velonews.competitor.com/2011/...2%80%99_170127
Bert on polo bike gearing it must be bad :(
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Old 1st May 2011   #374
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Are you sure? I heard he was going for a Burger King this year..
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Old 1st May 2011   #375
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I do hope he gets his green this year..

and then pisses off and lets some Aussies back in the game. ;)
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Old 1st May 2011   #376
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Bert on polo bike gearing it must be bad :(
He's got to be a bit careful about his nutrition this year, so isn't quite running on all cylinders.
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Old 1st May 2011   #377
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Me too.
Not the aussie bit.
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Old 1st May 2011   #378
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Are you sure? I heard he was going for KOM this year..
You misheard, hippy. He's going for the King of the Man Tan competition, previously won by Mickael Rasmussen.



(The bloke second left is letting the side down.)
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Old 1st May 2011   #379
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All I see is dopers.
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Old 1st May 2011   #380
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Shric shrac will be along shortly to describe how they all fail at fashion.
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Old 2nd May 2011   #381
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Swifty triumphs in Romandie! Beats Freire in a sprint! Get in!!

http://www.cyclingnews.com/races/tou...tage-5/results
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Old 3rd May 2011   #382
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I am sure Ballan has a very reasonable explanation

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/gazz...-investigation
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Old 3rd May 2011   #383
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On April 20, 2009, Ballan speaks to Nigrelli about taking EPO.

Nigrelli: “How many have you done?”
Ballan: “This is the fifth one.”
He then adds a little later: “This is how I’ve done EPO...”

On May 4, 2009, Nigrelli talks about Ballan to fellow rider Daniele Pietropolli. “Without chemicals Ballan would never have made it.”

Yeah, good luck explaining that conversation away..
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Old 3rd May 2011   #384
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Dirty dog. I really liked him.
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Old 3rd May 2011   #385
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Do not want

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Old 3rd May 2011   #386
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I am sure Ballan has a very reasonable explanation

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/gazz...-investigation
Why is everyone picking on Ballan? There's 30-odd people implicated in this investigation so far, yet only one is being called out by the media.
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Old 3rd May 2011   #387
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Huh? There's a few riders mentioned in that article and the others.

Mauro Santambrogio
Mauro Da Dalto (Liquigas-Cannondale)
Marco Bandiera (Quick Step)
Marzio Bruseghin

There's also this lot..
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/ital...ld-go-on-trial
and this article:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/brus...italia-line-up

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/team...io-from-racing
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Old 3rd May 2011   #389
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Why is everyone picking on Ballan? There's 30-odd people implicated in this investigation so far, yet only one is being called out by the media.
Well, he is a former world champion so, along with Cunego I suppose, is the highest profile rider involved. And there is the murky story of BMC's willingness to suspend him last year, when they wanted a ProTour license, and their unwillingness to suspend him this year when they wanted results.
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Old 3rd May 2011   #390
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Why is everyone picking on Ballan? There's 30-odd people implicated in this investigation so far, yet only one is being called out by the media.
“Without chemicals Ballan would never have made it.”

This?
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Old 3rd May 2011   #391
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The point I'm trying to make is that, once again, the English speaking media find a convenient scapegoat and go into a frenzy over him. Meanwhile another rider tests positive today, and unrepentant doper Davide Rebellin gets a contract yet that passes with barely a mention.

I find the lack of consistency annoying and somewhat hypocritical.
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Old 4th May 2011   #392
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Do not want

This feel bit better?
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Old 4th May 2011   #393
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The point I'm trying to make is that, once again, the English speaking media find a convenient scapegoat and go into a frenzy over him. Meanwhile another rider tests positive today, and unrepentant doper Davide Rebellin gets a contract yet that passes with barely a mention.

I find the lack of consistency annoying and somewhat hypocritical.

+1

The fact that Rebellin is allowed join Pro-Continental team Miche Guerciotti on the very fucking day that one of it's other riders (Muto) is suspended for EPO use is just laughable. On top of that, he's joining that cheating Mekon Stefan Schumacher on the team!!
I mean, does 'Pro Continental' suddenly mean you are allowed a much laxer policy on drugs? That you are allowed to hire a whole bunch of fallen idols at a cut rate without anyone getting a bit suspicious?
It really sticks in my throat when I see the likes of Rebellin, Schumaker, Vino, Di Luca et al making the podium again after a doping ban. They've fucked up the results of many a race in the past and now they get to do it all over again.
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Old 4th May 2011   #394
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It wouldn't be so bad if you could assume that they are now clean ... Sinkewitz (and there have probably been others) has re-focused the spotlight on the suspicion that they may not be.

It's just too hard to remember all the cases--there are so many, the 'legal' proceedings take ages, there are claims and counter-claims, each case being pursued individually takes away capacity from pursuing other cases, then you can't really keep track of when they return, etc.

As ever, the press simplify and focus on only a few. As a member of the public who isn't interested in the subject to the exclusion of everything else, I can't focus on more, either. I notice the news in passing but I'll still watch the races or look up the results no matter how many dopers are in the race. There's plenty you can get away with if you don't have the CIA looking for you and Navy Seals storming your house.
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Old 4th May 2011   #395
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After watching the Paris - Roubaix race this year I've started to take a real interest in Pro
Cycling, the only problem is that I'm a complete newbie and I don't really know anything about it! I was wandering if anyone could provide me with any key information or point me in the right direction where I can possibly learn more about the sport?

xxx
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Old 4th May 2011   #396
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Keep following races :
http://www.uci.ch/templates/UCI/UCI2...UyMjQ&LangId=1
http://www.cyclingfans.com/

News :
http://www.cyclingnews.com/
http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/

Blogs :
http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/
http://inrng.com/
Twitter is a good source of cycling news too.

And this forum of course :)
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Old 4th May 2011   #397
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I've just scanned through the start list for the Giro and I feel its such a shame that le tour is such a "be all and end all" cycle race, and that our GC contenders feel the need to miss out on such an epic cycle race. Full credit to those who are riding both this year.
That's all.
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Old 4th May 2011   #398
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Good to see the UCI tackling the real issues at the top level of the sport!

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/...rono-shoe.html
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Old 4th May 2011   #399
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UCI = dicks.

If they applied the rules equally, everything riders wear would be banned and they'd be back to woolen jerseys and steak in their woolen shorts.
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