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Old 11th June 2013   #4101
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Simply that the track bike aren't the most nimble handling bicycle in the first place, adding a large front rack with moderate weight simply exacerbate it.
I see, so it'd be fine if you wanted to carry around your mobile phone and wallet
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Old 11th June 2013   #4102
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More trail = stable, slow handling.
Less trail = twitchier, fast handling.

Track bike are bottom left;

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Old 11th June 2013   #4103
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More trail = stable, slow handling.
Less trail = twitchier, fast handling.

Track bike are bottom left;

That one does have more fork offset though (would be more prominent if they were curved forks), more than you would see on most track bikes, and also it has a rear brake so maybe its not a track??
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Old 11th June 2013   #4104
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That diagram is brilliant! If the bottom left is a track frame, what are the other three? I really need a good book on frame design...
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Old 11th June 2013   #4105
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If you're of the TL:DR brigade, you might find this idea;

http://cyclingtips.com.au/2011/02/th...bike-handling/

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First of all, when we talk about bike “handling”, we are basically referring to how much input is required to make the bike turn. When you hear about how”compliant” a bike is, it has nothing to do with handling. A misconception is that a soft riding bike is a slow turning bike. Seat say angles or how compliant the bike is has very little to do with handling.

One of the biggest myths out there is that small fork rake dimension is a faster steering bike (fork rake typically varies from 40-55mm). This is completely false. People tend to believe this because most touring bikes have a lot of fork rake. Touring bikes are actually very fast steering bikes. At the other end of the spectrum, track bikes are not fast handling bikes. Contrary to popular belief, they’re very slow steering bikes.
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Old 11th June 2013   #4106
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Not gonna lie, no idea what TL:DR means, that article seems pretty good though. I'll UTFS for a frame design book, I love Jobst Brandt's 'Bicycle Wheel', I expect there's something from a similar angle. Cheers Ed
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Old 11th June 2013   #4107
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Not gonna lie, no idea what TL:DR means, that article seems pretty good though. I'll UTFS for a frame design book, I love Jobst Brandt's 'Bicycle Wheel', I expect there's something from a similar angle. Cheers Ed
HA!
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Old 11th June 2013   #4109
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I ran my bike like this all winter:





I had zero problems Ed.
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Old 11th June 2013   #4110
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Old 11th June 2013   #4111
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Old 11th June 2013   #4112
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Has it ever been pointed out that this thread has possibly the wrong title? Every bike has a function and hence, is functional.

Judging by the bikes posted in this thread it should be: Practical bikes. Not Porn not Anti. No?

Tell me if I'm talking bollocks.
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Old 11th June 2013   #4113
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You're not wrong, it's just not interesting. :)


This thread is for interesting bikes that aren't shiny porn balls.
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Old 12th June 2013   #4114
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Functional is a term that, in popular use, refers to what happens here.
And this is a pretty popular place.
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Old 12th June 2013   #4116
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not this argument again







oh, and that's the first IF I've ever kind of liked
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Old 12th June 2013   #4117
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That diagram is brilliant! If the bottom left is a track frame, what are the other three? I really need a good book on frame design...
I had great joy in reading the Paterek manual. The old version is free online:

http://www.timpaterek.com/tpmanual_pdf.htm
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Old 12th June 2013   #4118
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That's a beast. Any more info?
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Old 12th June 2013   #4119
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Probably a Rawland.
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Old 12th June 2013   #4120
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It's made by Elephant Bikes flickr set.
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Old 12th June 2013   #4121
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Has it ever been pointed out that this thread has possibly the wrong title? Every bike has a function and hence, is functional.
You can also judge bikes on how well they perform that function. You can probably ride a steamroller with 32mm tyres round a track but its not the most functional choice.

But mainly this:

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Functional is a term that, in popular use, refers to what happens here.
And this is a pretty popular place.
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Old 13th June 2013   #4122
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My fbnpna was stolen!
http://www.lfgss.com/post3652822-10612.html
help me get it back please.
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Old 13th June 2013   #4123
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Just forward this to a friend in Copenhagen, what district?
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Old 13th June 2013   #4124
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Østerbro
thanks a lot, Ed
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Old 22nd June 2013   #4125
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Old 22nd June 2013   #4126
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^ No tks
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Old 23rd June 2013   #4127
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Nice bike, but that wall belongs in Anti.
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Old 2nd July 2013   #4128
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http://i.imgur.com/o9r2n.jpg
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Old 2nd July 2013   #4129
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I'd quite a life where I'd need that.
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Old 2nd July 2013   #4130
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Complete with a position for your big fuck off murder weapon bow and arrow..
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Old 2nd July 2013   #4131
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Old 2nd July 2013   #4132
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Old 3rd July 2013   #4133
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Old 3rd July 2013   #4134
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Old 3rd July 2013   #4135
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^Very nice, I'd run it with cleats if I owned it
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Old 8th July 2013   #4137
Aches and pains
Any one know what brake levers they are?
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Old 8th July 2013   #4138
lemonade
Old style Tektro (still available from Condor), with retroshift added?
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Old 8th July 2013   #4139
lemonade
In fact Retroshift seem to use those brake levers as standard for some of their models, so just standard Retroshift.
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Old 9th July 2013   #4140
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Who was after a Lava Dome in here?

http://www.lfgss.com/thread109853.html#post3700827
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Old 9th July 2013   #4141
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Me. Well lusting after one. Unfortunately it's way to big for me.

Lovely colours though.
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Old 9th July 2013   #4142
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If I'm going touring again, it would be something like this but with a bikepack saddlebag.

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Old 9th July 2013   #4143
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I swear you build a bike for touring ed.

But that bike is rad, it reminds me of what i'm aiming for with my Genesis
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Old 9th July 2013   #4144
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I swear you build a bike for touring ed.
I build an audax bike, rather than a tourer, a big difference.
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Old 9th July 2013   #4145
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I know that, wasn't there another bike? I can't remember off hand
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Old 9th July 2013   #4146
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There was, it was* a fixed wheel tourer.

*till the dent is sorted.

Unless you meant the Thorn I've sold.

Last edited by edscoble; 9th July 2013 at 16:42.
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Old 9th July 2013   #4147
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^^^^ is like the big brother of mine.
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Old 9th July 2013   #4148
ameydonor
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Old 10th July 2013   #4149
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Not knowing much about the geometrys, whats the differences mainly between your audax ed, that geekhouse tourer and say a geekhouse CX ?

they all look fairly similar to me!
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Old 10th July 2013   #4150
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^^ Lovely jubbly.
I really want a good solid touring bike...

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