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Old 23rd July 2013   #301
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That. Is. Awesome.
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Old 23rd July 2013   #302
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Akira meets Short Circuit.
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Old 23rd July 2013   #303
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I can't work out the steering arrangement on that. It looks like it pivots on a more-or-less vertical rod to the right of the front wheel. But wouldn't that just whack the back edge of the wheel into the front swingarm when turning left?
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Old 23rd July 2013   #304
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The concept text is all in japanese... Bad translation - 'I want to set it on its own what about gaap becomes such a figure. Electric directory - Shitoposuto~u can be changed front swing arm steering La, and suspension are separated, belt drive, such as the position, is a combination of a fully also current. Verification of whether it is designed to be able to ride it is impossible because it does not know at all physical part mechanical"
Here.
Looks like he/she isn't quite sure if the concept will work either haha
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Old 23rd July 2013   #305
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Good to see that they haven't over-complicated the design...

#killitwithfire
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Old 23rd July 2013   #306
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blurghh :(
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Old 23rd July 2013   #307
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It's just a tesi with pedals, all the design challenges are soluble, but you still don't end up with anything better than a conventional telescopic fork.
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Old 23rd July 2013   #308
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It is, like Tesi's, extremely rad
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Old 22nd August 2013   #309
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More wooden bikes, but now with over-designed metal bits:
http://mocoloco.com/vote/wood-b-hand...-by-bsg-bikes/
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Old 22nd August 2013   #310
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Probably not the 100% correct thread, but I can't think where else to put it:

Build a Custom Bike Frame with 3D Printing.
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Old 22nd August 2013   #311
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I've seen that before, would say any major advance in building technology (such as 3d printing) has a place here.
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Old 25th September 2013   #312
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http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/...-for-your-bike


Discuss
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Old 25th September 2013   #313
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I'd only buy that if they made it uglier.
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Old 4th October 2013   #314
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Bike storage innovation

Underground automated bike parking in japan
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Old 4th October 2013   #316
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Polo bike?
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Old 4th October 2013   #317
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But shit.
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Old 6th October 2013   #318
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Oh my god they're trying to market it in English but failing miserably :/ it's not easy, it's izzy!
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Old 20th October 2013   #319
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It can't be as smart as it looks

https://www.dragoninnovation.com/projects/23-hammerhead
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Old 20th October 2013   #320
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It can be as smart as they claim and it still won't do anything I wasn't already doing with a Garmin Edge 305 six years ago. The creation of better quality pace notes is all down to stuff that has happened off-board in the intervening half decade, but once you have a good route description loaded in the Garmin it guides you with beeps and pictograms of the junctions, turns on the screen light only when needed, can put up the virtual training partner if you want a race and the battery lasts 8-12h without the need to carry a smart phone. A cheap accessory for smart phone owners who occasionally ride, but I think hardcore Stravanauts will be keeping their dedicated cycling GPS/PM head units.
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Old 20th October 2013   #321
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Agreed.

I was more interested in its 'Tells you if something is in your path' system which much be pretty sophisticated if it works even slightly well. Obviously that's less useful than actually looking where you're going, but an interesting idea.

Also, useless in areas of low or no phone reception, data or GPS - i.e. the kind of places where fun cycling occurs.
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Old 23rd October 2013   #322
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I'm not so sure about this...
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Old 23rd October 2013   #323
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Anything that transmits data over the air can be hacked given enough time. At least with something mechanical, the thief will have to be present. With this, they can lie in the shadows and (lets be realistic, because this is a great hacking target) and then unlock it and walk away.

Also: Better go rub a bank instead....
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Old 23rd October 2013   #324
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"Enough time" being measured in millions of years for 128 bit AES key encryption, as opposed to hours.

I would ask how resilient it would be to a magnet, or electric current.
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Old 23rd October 2013   #325
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rub a bank
Filth
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Old 23rd October 2013   #326
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"Enough time" being measured in millions of years for 128 bit AES key encryption, as opposed to hours.

I would ask how resilient it would be to a magnet, or electric current.
Probably, but you really think someone who buys a proximity lock will actually choose a anything more than a 6 letter password? Dictionary attack the shit out of it and city wide, a weekend yield will be pretty delicious!
If these go into circulation. They'll be shifted alongside OTP bikes or Create's for an extortionate price for the Gen Y that wants a reason to go into their phone to digitally unlock....a lock....
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Old 23rd October 2013   #327
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Even a 6 letter & number (case-insensitive) password is going to have 2.2 billion combinations.

There's not too many technical specs for the supposedly open encryption being used, but you have to assume that the question / response has some sort of delay in it - meaning that the thief-in-wait is going to be there for a long time.

"Bitlock ... cannot be defeated using any kind of bolt cutter or hacksaw".

ORLY?
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Old 23rd October 2013   #328
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Even a 6 letter & number (case-insensitive) password is going to have 2.2 billion combinations.

There's not too many technical specs for the supposedly open encryption being used, but you have to assume that the question / response has some sort of delay in it - meaning that the thief-in-wait is going to be there for a long time.

"Bitlock ... cannot be defeated using any kind of bolt cutter or hacksaw".

ORLY?
HACKSAW ALL THE LOCKS!!!

On a sidenote, (If you know these things) does that mean the constant traffic for a router that uses WPA2 is the reason it takes very little time (variable) to crack?
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Old 23rd October 2013   #329
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"Bitlock ... cannot be defeated using any kind of bolt cutter or hacksaw".

ORLY?
Um yeaaaaahhhhhh. They do seem to have rather solved the wrong problem. If they could actually make an uncuttable lock, then they'd have a real product. For a lock whose "structural security is on a par with the best U-locks on the market" it does look rather low-rent. Its skinny shackle, single sided locking and large size make it look pretty susceptible to other forms of attack.
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Old 23rd October 2013   #330
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WPA2 would still need to be bruteforced, and would take years. WEP / WPA can be broken, and take minutes.
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Old 27th October 2013   #331
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Um yeaaaaahhhhhh. They do seem to have rather solved the wrong problem. If they could actually make an uncuttable lock, then they'd have a real product. For a lock whose "structural security is on a par with the best U-locks on the market" it does look rather low-rent. Its skinny shackle, single sided locking and large size make it look pretty susceptible to other forms of attack.
They solved (or it seems like they may have) the problem they were trying to solve. Their goal does not seem to have been to invent a stronger lock, but create a lock which could be used by multiple people.

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The world's first keyless bike lock to enable low cost peer-to-peer bike sharing among individuals and communities.
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Old 27th October 2013   #332
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Their goal does not seem to have been to invent a stronger lock, but create a lock which could be used by somebody outside while you're sat in the pub.
Using BT for communication has too much range if you're not going to use a confirmation on the handset. NFC would probably be OK, but it's on very few phones at the moment. With BT, they need to unlock from the handset, not just from the lock which happens to be in contact with a handset which may be >10m away. As an example, my phone can still be in touch with a BT headset in my van after I've gone through four sets of doors into an office.
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Old 27th October 2013   #333
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Old 27th October 2013   #334
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Wouldn't want to do any big sets on that...
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Old 27th October 2013   #335
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looooooong fork
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Old 29th October 2013   #337
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Not really anything new (except the basket turns into a lock thing)... but still a concept. Kind of like it actually:
http://www.peoplepeople.se/wp-conten...two_bikes1.jpg

http://www.peoplepeople.se/reinventing-a-classic/
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Old 29th October 2013   #338
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^^That is just ridicules. Do want.
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Old 29th October 2013   #339
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Not really anything new (except the basket turns into a lock thing)... but still a concept. Kind of like it actually:
http://www.peoplepeople.se/wp-conten...two_bikes1.jpg
Some madman posted that in porn, certainly belongs in anti
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Old 29th October 2013   #340
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Some madman posted that in antiporn, might belong in porn for the pure giggles
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Old 5th November 2013   #342
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It's a bit Britten V1000
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Old 6th November 2013   #343
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http://www.huhmagazine.co.uk/5813/co...es-front-wheel

Not a bad idea actually..
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Old 6th November 2013   #344
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I'm sure they could be broken off but they'd be good for stopping opportunists, quite fancy one for my front wheel which rarely gets locked.
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Old 6th November 2013   #346
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I'm sure they could be broken off but they'd be good for stopping opportunists, quite fancy one for my front wheel which rarely gets locked.


I'm no metallurgist but I reckon you could find a way that breaking it off makes the wheel unrideable... in any case, as you say it's better than nothing.

I guess if we all had proper wheel security the pro thieves would just start bolt cropping carbon forks and so on, or undoing the entire front end. There's no real way to stop someone determined and I always worry that "less visible" approaches like this encourage scallywags to have a go then kick your bike in for the lolz if they fail.
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Old 6th November 2013   #347
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How do you tighten it, or is it only useable with QR skewers?
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Old 6th November 2013   #348
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they seem to make them for M9 and M10 bolts too - look on the site. I think in both cases when the combo is right the outer bit slips off revealing allen holes/wrench flats or whatever...
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Old 10th November 2013   #349
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Cogs not sprockets on this ugly thing
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Old 10th November 2013   #350
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It's all very well for you to snipe, but I'd like to see you make a wooden chain.
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