London Fixed-gear and Single-speed

Scilly Suffolk · 28th February 2013

Is it a Mercian Strada Speciale?

IndraRipper · 28th February 2013

Anyone know where I can get one of those solid shimano track chainrings?

IndraRipper · 28th February 2013

Never mind, it's called the Olympic Zen and they're rare as hens teeth.

EdwardZ · 28th February 2013

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Originally Posted by IndraRipper

Anyone know where I can get one of those solid shimano track chainrings?

Direct from Nippon (200 guinea 1/8")
Alex say "This products are only available for those of whom participated UCI World Championships or Olympic games."

IndraRipper · 28th February 2013

I know that's not true, tracks supermarket used to stock them and I've seen them on many hipster sleds.

EdwardZ · 28th February 2013

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Originally Posted by IndraRipper

I know that's not true, tracks supermarket used to stock them and I've seen them on many hipster sleds.

Follow the link.. Alex is selling them!

IndraRipper · 28th February 2013

Ah thanks, I got confused...

sorethroat · 28th February 2013

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Originally Posted by sorethroat

Anybody got any idea about Geoffrey Butler bb stamps? Got a nice frame with Geoffrey butler decals and the bottom bracket is stamped LB and -7. According to the stickers the tubing is 531 st. Has full touring mounts as expected.
Lugs are extremely similar to this bike:
http://www.lfgss.com/thread33976.html

But with concave bits where the seat stays join the top tube, like this:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7243/7...86f85dc3_z.jpg
Frame looks in pristine condition, stove enamelled with no chips at all just very slight cable rub on one patch.

I don't doubt it's a Geoffrey Butler, but the bloke who sold it to me said it might have been built by Cliff Shrubb. The guy seemed nice and used to race with one of the Swinnertons, very interested to see if he was right about Cliff Shrubb.

Built by Nigel Dean, called up GB and they were very helpful.
It was built in the early 90's and is the same frame as the lovely Nigel Dean Tour Ace frames.

PiemelPiemel · 28th February 2013

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Originally Posted by iRideSSandGears

Hi I've recently acquired a frame from a friend who thought it was an Aende, but looking at the linked below thread I'm intrigued to think it's a Mercian?

NOTE: I can't see a number on the BB shell.

http://www.lfgss.com/thread55711.html

Here are the pictures, if anybody can conform what it is, I'd appreciate it very much.

Looking at the paint I'd say Pegoretti HA! #nothelpingiknow

maxvl · 1st March 2013

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Originally Posted by Wingedangel

Max...check out seventies raliegh frames from about 72 to about 80...they made frames with excatly the same lugs with campag dropouts...they sometimes stamped the seat collar and the seat posts were 26.4...
The name escapes me at the mo...they were 531 with forks to...tho maybe not the seat/chain stays...light metallic green with box lining on the tubes...

I built up one about 18 months ago...I'm damned if I can remember the name...like a royale? or regal? I know they did a royale tho I don't know if thats the frame I mean...

Tho i'm sure from the lugs it's one of those...the other lugs are to well finished...your lugs are generic ie factory......the others posted have been hand finished...

It's not a Gazelle tho...and def not AA...AA was top of the range race frame...on those you get wet...you don't have eyelets...

tho where are you? whatever it is it's quite old...that it doesn't have any braze ons...means it's pre seventies...if it's all clips then thats dating it...which takes it outof the realm of my raliegh punt...

tho it's a pretty frame...you need to look for mass produced I think...the lugs aren't hand finished, any artisan builder would have filed the lugs a lot finer...

Hi,

I have been looking at Raleighs, but I haven't found those round cutouts yet and the S/N doesn't seem to fit. I live in the Netherlands, so a Dutch brand seems a good guess.

BTW, I'm working on the bike atm, bought some nice old Dura Ace and Campy parts, which I'm cleaning up.

Rik Van Looy · 1st March 2013

have you thought about vintage batavus - professional etc - not really an area I know much about, but probably worth a quick look.

maxvl · 1st March 2013

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Originally Posted by Rik Van Looy

^ Yep, 26.0 is pretty significant - it means the bike does not have 28.6mm OD tubing.

If the OD of the tubes is perhaps 28.0, and it's a plain gauge tube at 0.9mm wall thickness that would be a nominal 26.2mm ID so allowing for eccentricity a 26.0mm seatpost would fit.

28.0mm tubing tends to be referred to as "French"... Most columbus frames were 28.6, but Vitus were typically 28.0, as was the 531 for the french market.

The only other bikes I've seen 26.0 seatposts on are Japanese - I had a centurion with a 26.0 post - made from plain gauge Tange tubing.

There are obviously exceptions, today I'm riding a Cliff Shrubb track bike with a 26.0mm seatpost - Some UK frame builders used Vitus tubing and some used french 531.

Turns out I made a mistake and the seatpost is actuall 27mm. Stupid me, still: thanks for the lessons on tubing!

-TA- · 2nd March 2013

Howdy!

Any ideas on the origin/make of this frame?
Won it on ebay last year as complete time trail bike, just taken all the lovely Campag kit off it, ready to sell, it is aluminium with carbon forks, and weighs nothing even for such a large frame! (yet to measure it) and the welds are super smooth!

Last owner got it powdercoated with his name on, mentioned it could be Italian..

any ideas would be great, thanks

Scilly Suffolk · 2nd March 2013

That brake bridge is rather nice.

No idea of the make, but if you check the BB shell (or the BB you removed) and the diameter of the fork's crown race that would tell you if it's Italian.

Rik Van Looy · 3rd March 2013

^^If it's any help, the forks look like mizuno - I used to have them on an old de rosa

Thuekr · 3rd March 2013

What are these - and what group on the Colnago? Thanks in advance.

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tbe · 3rd March 2013

what is the name of this model?

thanks :)

giropaul · 3rd March 2013

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Originally Posted by EdwardZ

I think its a Elite Piste (as the original poster suggested). The Alu team were, to my knowledge, road frames. The welds on the frame is the picture seem a bit less smooth than they often were but it could just be the color/livery and illumination drawing them out.
The fork? The standard fork delivered with the Elite Piste was a carbon fork. The (spectacular) track MAX fork was an (expensive) option.
These, I think, were really the last great Merckx track frames (especially with the MAX fork which is one of my heafy favorites)..

Here is a picture I found of Marcel Barth riding one (with the above livery):

(carbon and not steel fork)

I've just checked mine - it says Alu Team on it, and came direct from Merckx with the Max forks. Mine is a sort of blue/green colour that de Wilde used to ride.

I think that the Elite Piste was the next generation - the model that Keisse rode some years ago.

giropaul · 3rd March 2013

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scilly Suffolk

Is it a Mercian Strada Speciale?

Yes it is.

EdwardZ · 3rd March 2013

Quote:

Originally Posted by giropaul

I've just checked mine - it says Alu Team on it, and came direct from Merckx with the Max forks. Mine is a sort of blue/green colour that de Wilde used to ride.

The only Alu Team frames I've seen were road frames but .... I'd be hard pressed to try to gather what their differences could be (if any)..

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I think that the Elite Piste was the next generation - the model that Keisse rode some years ago.

Elite Piste was what Marty Nothstein rode from around 2002 or so.. Not sure when the model first was made but I think they were in the Merckx program until 2006 when they introduced the Alu Pista--- a cheaper grade compact frame made of Deda Fire. I think they were probably orderable until the end (2009) but I'm not sure ..

For some years he was on this
http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/photos...3-iljobike.jpg
which was, I think, carbon. Before that not sure..

Here is a picture of Bartko und Keisse from the 2008 Munich 6-days
http://ticker.live-radsport.ch/image...c-photo-k).jpg
These days Keisse is on Alu.. I think Dolans but..

giropaul · 4th March 2013

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Originally Posted by EdwardZ

The only Alu Team frames I've seen were road frames but .... I'd be hard pressed to try to gather what their differences could be (if any)..

Elite Piste was what Marty Nothstein rode from around 2002 or so.. Not sure when the model first was made but I think they were in the Merckx program until 2006 when they introduced the Alu Pista--- a cheaper grade compact frame made of Deda Fire. I think they were probably orderable until the end (2009) but I'm not sure ..

For some years he was on this
http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/photos...3-iljobike.jpg
which was, I think, carbon. Before that not sure..

Here is a picture of Bartko und Keisse from the 2008 Munich 6-days
http://ticker.live-radsport.ch/image...c-photo-k).jpg
These days Keisse is on Alu.. I think Dolans but..

Noy the best resolution, but mine is identical to this frame, except that mine hasn't got the chrome forks/polished rear. Definitely says Alu-Team on my top tube -

http://www.fatnick.com/edw98-1.jpg

tbe · 4th March 2013

no one knows what that GT is... really?

dang123 · 5th March 2013

I need help me identify this model De Rosa

EdwardZ · 5th March 2013

Looks like a DeRosa SLX from the 1980s with 1992 Record Ergopower (Maybe 93 Chorus), Chorus Monoplaner, Chorus Cranks, Chorus headset,... handlebar looks like Cinelli Eubios but hard to tell.. I'd suspect it was purchased new around 1993-94. The stem and bars might have come later.. If its a Cinelli either the stem does not fit or its a later Eubios (Cinelli switched from 26.4 to 26.0mm in 1997/8 as part of the fusion with 3TTT). Could also be an ITM bar (they were 26.0).. can't see so just guessing..

Rik Van Looy · 5th March 2013

^I'm guessing ITM bars/stem - stem looks like an eclypse (26.0) - fairly common on italian bikes around the mid 90's.

Scilly Suffolk · 5th March 2013

The Ergos are later than 1992: the tips of the brake levers were triangular for '92.

The cranks look sub-Chorus from what I can see. 1st gen Chorus had a noticeable raised lip around the crank bolt and 2nd gen inherited the defunct CDA cranks with self-extracting crank bolts; both of these had tapered spider arms.

EdwardZ · 5th March 2013

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Originally Posted by tbe

no one knows what that GT is... really?

I'm confussed. E de Wilde is clearly on a Merckx. Bartko is on a Bartko (which is probably a Merckx) and Keisse is on a Merckx.. If one is refering back to Marty.. He rode Merckx after 2000.
At the Olympics he rode carbon GTs at both Atlanta and Sydney ... they were, I think, from Trimble--- Brent designed the original Kestrals-- as the frame had all the hallmarks- Back in the mid-1990s there were just a handfull of builders doing monocoques (and with a basket full of US gov dollar backing doing the mold was not a cost issue). The wheels were from Mavic. The Project ’96 GT superbike was outlawed by the UCI in 2000 so...

Rik Van Looy · 5th March 2013

^ I think he's referring to the green GT Competition or whatever it is that he'd previously posted - nothing to do with the Merckx question...
In answer to his question - it looks like a 99/2000ish GT cro-moly frame. Crossbar seems to say "competition" and another word, possibly an RX100 groupset.
See if you can find a catalogue scan from 99 or 2000, I remember seeing lugless cro-mo GT road bikes in the shops around that time - before that they were all high end aluminium jobs

gypoben · 5th March 2013

So i am now the owner of this early 80's Ciocc track frame / fork. At least I think it's a Ciocc...

It was sprayed up and badged as one, although it doesnt have any of the pantographing that others seem to (top of fork crown / seatstays etc). But does look very similar to a Mockba 80. Same forks / chroming etc.

The only info I've managed to dig is that it used to be ridden by this dude http://www.veloveritas.co.uk/2012/04...ugh-interview/ - that's according to the old boy who sold me (Chris) it. I'm not sure how true that is, because from the pictures in that article, Paul McHugh doesnt look tall enough to ride this frame... Hmm

Plus the serial / frame number I found on the top nearside of the seat-tube BA 2864 R (see pic) while stripping the paint... Googling and interweb searching has brought nothing up on this number though.

Maybe this was a un-branded frame that Ciocc made, for the rider or team? Could be a possibility. Not sure if anyone can be of any help! I should probably just try andcontact Mr. Pelizzoli

tbe · 5th March 2013

In denmark BA on a frame means Banani!

Thuekr · 5th March 2013

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Originally Posted by tbe

In denmark BA on a frame means Banani!

Sure looks like the frame above is one! (the W in front means imported Banani) - BA is Banani hand built in Denmark.

From http://fixie-king.dk/forum/viewtopic...0&hilit=banani

gypoben · 6th March 2013

Hmm, you guys could be onto something here. Looking at some pictures of Banani's and it definitely does look very similar...

Threaded set clamp here is identical

I have contacted the Banani shop in Denmark asking for some help!

c4s4t1 · 6th March 2013

Is there anybody out there who knows about a Casati Orion?

More pics:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/8051297...th/8533236019/

chrisbmx116 · 6th March 2013

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Originally Posted by gypoben

Hmm, you guys could be onto something here. Looking at some pictures of Banani's and it definitely does look very similar...

Threaded set clamp here is identical

I have contacted the Banani shop in Denmark asking for some help!

Nice! Lets get to the bottom of this...

chrisbmx116 · 6th March 2013

literallyoverthemoon · 7th March 2013

Can anyone help identify this three armed crankset? Or point me in the direction of where to get a chainring for it? Thanks.

Forgot to mention but probably should; the bolt holes are threaded.

EdwardZ · 7th March 2013

probably something like this
http://www.compasscycle.com/cranks_rh_ring_large.html

literallyoverthemoon · 7th March 2013

Hmm, the BCD (if that applicable here) of Rene Herse cranks looks much smaller than the one I've got. A place for me to start looking though, thanks.

EdwardZ · 7th March 2013

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Originally Posted by literallyoverthemoon

Hmm, the BCD (if that applicable here) of Rene Herse cranks looks much smaller than the one I've got. A place for me to start looking though, thanks.

TA also made 3 arm cranks with 116 PCD

primitive robot · 8th March 2013

i just saw this in one of the other threads, anyone know who built this? or who does something similar?..........so hot right now

Rik Van Looy · 8th March 2013

It's a Textima Sprint - They'll be a bit hard to come buy - used by GDR Track team back in the '80s

Rik Van Looy · 8th March 2013

Completely amazing though
Here's another to feast your eyes on

eeriks · 10th March 2013

Can anyone identify this bike model and how high it is?
Only info from seller is that it's bioracer

HLC · 10th March 2013

what rims are these? if you could id any other parts id be grateful

1000archangels · 10th March 2013

broby carbon on suzue promax hubs
sram omniums crankset
spd pedals
chain looks like hkk vertex blue
saddle is a san marco zoncolan I think
thomson seatpost
stem looks like tfg imports,
shallow drops
I will let you guess what the frame make is...

Rik Van Looy · 10th March 2013

Saddle's a concor lite

HLC · 10th March 2013

thanks guys. appreciate it

Rik Van Looy · 10th March 2013

If you want the location too, I think it's Hillingdon!

rodabod · 11th March 2013

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Originally Posted by -TA-

Looks like a late Fausto Coppi to me.

Was it fitted with Campagnolo Mirage?

rive gauche · 11th March 2013

anything stamped on that rear brake bridge? also what length top-tube?

28th February 2013	#2951
Scilly Suffolk	Is it a Mercian Strada Speciale? Last edited by Scilly Suffolk; 28th February 2013 at 00:19.
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5th March 2013	#2979
gypoben	Ciocc? So i am now the owner of this early 80's Ciocc track frame / fork. At least I think it's a Ciocc... It was sprayed up and badged as one, although it doesnt have any of the pantographing that others seem to (top of fork crown / seatstays etc). But does look very similar to a Mockba 80. Same forks / chroming etc. The only info I've managed to dig is that it used to be ridden by this dude http://www.veloveritas.co.uk/2012/04...ugh-interview/ - that's according to the old boy who sold me (Chris) it. I'm not sure how true that is, because from the pictures in that article, Paul McHugh doesnt look tall enough to ride this frame... Hmm Plus the serial / frame number I found on the top nearside of the seat-tube BA 2864 R (see pic) while stripping the paint... Googling and interweb searching has brought nothing up on this number though. Maybe this was a un-branded frame that Ciocc made, for the rider or team? Could be a possibility. Not sure if anyone can be of any help! I should probably just try andcontact Mr. Pelizzoli
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6th March 2013	#2983
c4s4t1	Is there anybody out there who knows about a Casati Orion? More pics: http://www.flickr.com/photos/8051297...th/8533236019/ Last edited by c4s4t1; 6th March 2013 at 14:37.
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7th March 2013	#2986
literallyoverthemoon	Can anyone help identify this three armed crankset? Or point me in the direction of where to get a chainring for it? Thanks. Forgot to mention but probably should; the bolt holes are threaded. Last edited by literallyoverthemoon; 7th March 2013 at 14:27.
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28th February 2013	#2952
IndraRipper	Anyone know where I can get one of those solid shimano track chainrings?
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28th February 2013	#2953
IndraRipper	Never mind, it's called the Olympic Zen and they're rare as hens teeth.
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28th February 2013	#2955
IndraRipper	I know that's not true, tracks supermarket used to stock them and I've seen them on many hipster sleds.
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28th February 2013	#2957
IndraRipper	Ah thanks, I got confused...
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1st March 2013	#2961
Rik Van Looy	have you thought about vintage batavus - professional etc - not really an area I know much about, but probably worth a quick look.
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2nd March 2013	#2963
-TA-	Howdy! Any ideas on the origin/make of this frame? Won it on ebay last year as complete time trail bike, just taken all the lovely Campag kit off it, ready to sell, it is aluminium with carbon forks, and weighs nothing even for such a large frame! (yet to measure it) and the welds are super smooth! Last owner got it powdercoated with his name on, mentioned it could be Italian.. any ideas would be great, thanks
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2nd March 2013	#2964
Scilly Suffolk	That brake bridge is rather nice. No idea of the make, but if you check the BB shell (or the BB you removed) and the diameter of the fork's crown race that would tell you if it's Italian.
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3rd March 2013	#2965
Rik Van Looy	^^If it's any help, the forks look like mizuno - I used to have them on an old de rosa
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3rd March 2013	#2966
Thuekr	What are these - and what group on the Colnago? Thanks in advance. #2
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3rd March 2013	#2967
tbe	what is the name of this model? thanks :)
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4th March 2013	#2972
tbe	no one knows what that GT is... really?
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5th March 2013	#2973
dang123	I need help me identify this model De Rosa
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5th March 2013	#2974
EdwardZ	Looks like a DeRosa SLX from the 1980s with 1992 Record Ergopower (Maybe 93 Chorus), Chorus Monoplaner, Chorus Cranks, Chorus headset,... handlebar looks like Cinelli Eubios but hard to tell.. I'd suspect it was purchased new around 1993-94. The stem and bars might have come later.. If its a Cinelli either the stem does not fit or its a later Eubios (Cinelli switched from 26.4 to 26.0mm in 1997/8 as part of the fusion with 3TTT). Could also be an ITM bar (they were 26.0).. can't see so just guessing..
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5th March 2013	#2975
Rik Van Looy	^I'm guessing ITM bars/stem - stem looks like an eclypse (26.0) - fairly common on italian bikes around the mid 90's.
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5th March 2013	#2976
Scilly Suffolk	The Ergos are later than 1992: the tips of the brake levers were triangular for '92. The cranks look sub-Chorus from what I can see. 1st gen Chorus had a noticeable raised lip around the crank bolt and 2nd gen inherited the defunct CDA cranks with self-extracting crank bolts; both of these had tapered spider arms.
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5th March 2013	#2978
Rik Van Looy	^ I think he's referring to the green GT Competition or whatever it is that he'd previously posted - nothing to do with the Merckx question... In answer to his question - it looks like a 99/2000ish GT cro-moly frame. Crossbar seems to say "competition" and another word, possibly an RX100 groupset. See if you can find a catalogue scan from 99 or 2000, I remember seeing lugless cro-mo GT road bikes in the shops around that time - before that they were all high end aluminium jobs
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5th March 2013	#2980
tbe	In denmark BA on a frame means Banani!
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6th March 2013	#2982
gypoben	Hmm, you guys could be onto something here. Looking at some pictures of Banani's and it definitely does look very similar... Threaded set clamp here is identical I have contacted the Banani shop in Denmark asking for some help!
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7th March 2013	#2987
EdwardZ	probably something like this http://www.compasscycle.com/cranks_rh_ring_large.html
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7th March 2013	#2988
literallyoverthemoon	Hmm, the BCD (if that applicable here) of Rene Herse cranks looks much smaller than the one I've got. A place for me to start looking though, thanks.
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8th March 2013	#2990
primitive robot	i just saw this in one of the other threads, anyone know who built this? or who does something similar?..........so hot right now
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8th March 2013	#2991
Rik Van Looy	It's a Textima Sprint - They'll be a bit hard to come buy - used by GDR Track team back in the '80s
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8th March 2013	#2992
Rik Van Looy	Completely amazing though Here's another to feast your eyes on
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10th March 2013	#2993
eeriks	Can anyone identify this bike model and how high it is? Only info from seller is that it's bioracer
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10th March 2013	#2994
HLC	what rims are these? if you could id any other parts id be grateful
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10th March 2013	#2995
1000archangels	broby carbon on suzue promax hubs sram omniums crankset spd pedals chain looks like hkk vertex blue saddle is a san marco zoncolan I think thomson seatpost stem looks like tfg imports, shallow drops I will let you guess what the frame make is...
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10th March 2013	#2996
Rik Van Looy	Saddle's a concor lite
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10th March 2013	#2997
HLC	thanks guys. appreciate it
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10th March 2013	#2998
Rik Van Looy	If you want the location too, I think it's Hillingdon!
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11th March 2013	#3000
rive gauche	anything stamped on that rear brake bridge? also what length top-tube?
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