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Old 30th June 2009   #4151
madillnessdonor
 
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I think changing the Hetchins frame out for a more contemporary one would be the easy fix. Lovely frame, wrong build.
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Old 30th June 2009   #4152
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Biggest fail is the most obvious....

Mixing old and new parts

Shit, I've started now I won't be able to stop, Id better go...
Aside from anti-anachronism nazis, who's going to object? It's a good frame with good parts. Do you think he should have binned the tasty black Grammo stem just because it doesn't period match the Ellipse wheels?
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Old 30th June 2009   #4153
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yeah, dont want to be too anal about period parts, but its wrong to put modern mid range parts on a rare and classic frame. you wouldnt paint a jag E-type in two tone paint wearing blinging alloy wheels for the same reason.

im sure it rides great though
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Old 30th June 2009   #4154
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Its all wrong.

That square bike on the last page however, is all right! I'd kill for that thing.
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Old 30th June 2009   #4155
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yeah, dont want to be too anal about period parts, but its wrong to put modern mid range parts on a rare and classic frame.
A straight-stayed Hetchins with basic (for a Hetchins) lug work hardly counts as either rare or classic. What's the alternative, anyway? Spending months and hundreds of pounds sourcing period correct parts so you can enter it in Concours d'Elegance competitions, and then not wanting to ride it because you'll wear out your precious Chater-Lea chainring.
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Old 30th June 2009   #4156
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Old 30th June 2009   #4157
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People riding brakeless with no foot retention must ride so so slow.
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Old 30th June 2009   #4158
Balkidonor
 
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Or just not for a very long time.
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Old 30th June 2009   #4159
RPM
 
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just as well, have you seen how they ride when they try to ride "fast" ?
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Old 30th June 2009   #4160
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Or just do tricks outside there house. But alot of money spent just for that.
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Old 30th June 2009   #4161
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JBAFBMX (just buy a f-in' BMX)
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Old 30th June 2009   #4162
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Biggest fail is the most obvious....

Mixing old and new parts

Shit, I've started now I won't be able to stop, Id better go...
Better post up some Victorian houses with mini-dishes on then, or an E-type with effective modern tyres.

The refusal to mix old and new is ridiculous. If the parts had been silver, not black, a grand total of no one would have cared.

Last edited by tom.; 1st July 2009 at 06:27. Reason: typo
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Old 30th June 2009   #4163
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http://cyanatrendland.com/wp-content...gear-bike3.jpg

God help us all

Last edited by Darwenian; 30th June 2009 at 22:59. Reason: wrong church
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Old 30th June 2009   #4164
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Apart from the Brooks, I like that a lot.
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Old 30th June 2009   #4165
mikeymerk
 
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that Yama is illa sick
in the best possible way

maybe drop the brooks but still
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Old 1st July 2009   #4166
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this bike confused the fuck outta me. what's going on..?1??!
When i first saw that I thought it was a pimped fold-up!
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Old 1st July 2009   #4167
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Definitely maybe drop the brooks
.....and you got a ride.
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Old 1st July 2009   #4168
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this bike confused the fuck outta me. what's going on..?1??!
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JBAFBMX (just buy a f-in' BMX)
What is with the clearance on that fork?
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Old 1st July 2009   #4169
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About 150mm.

:s
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Old 1st July 2009   #4170
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What's the alternative, anyway? Spending months and hundreds of pounds sourcing period correct parts
yes, otherwise get a modern frame thats probably cheaper and better. i dont really think the parts have to be perfectly period correct, but it is just completely wrong to mix the aesthetic of old and classic with modern. if it were any old crappy frame it wouldnt matter, but hetchins arent any old frame.
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Old 1st July 2009   #4171
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fuck it, it's a bike that function well, he build it up with reasonable component, and even thought it's a classic frame, it still function well.

be glad he didn't kill it by respraying it, removing the brake cable line, etc. top tube pad, deep v and arrospok etc.
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Old 1st July 2009   #4172
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yes, otherwise get a modern frame thats probably cheaper and better.
It should be possible to get a quite nice straight stay Hetchins 531 frame for less than the price of a new 631 frame, and the Aluminium frames which are really better than that are more expensive still. You're showing far too much reverence for a very ordinary frame of which there are probably thousands of examples still kicking around.
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Old 1st July 2009   #4173
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Excellent my Hetchins made the anti-porn page I must have done something right!

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It should be possible to get a quite nice straight stay Hetchins 531 frame for less than the price of a new 631 frame, and the Aluminium frames which are really better than that are more expensive still. You're showing far too much reverence for a very ordinary frame of which there are probably thousands of examples still kicking around.
I picked the frame up of ebay for just over £400 its almost exactly the same dimensions as a custom Ribble 753 road frame I had built 15 years ago and that was £370 then. I'd be surprised if you could get such a nice frame that fits so well for that much these days, definitely not one with pretty curly lugs!

In my post on current projects I mention I'm not happy with the wheel/tyre combo and the crank isn't quite right (a more elegant chainwheel would help), and I went to quite a bit of time to remove all logos from all the parts to keep focus on the great frame.

My Dad has a Hetchins from the year before this one (1960) obviously full period components and was last ridden 15years ago, by me for about a couple of miles.
It's back in the garage roof collecting dust again.
I figure bikes are for riding so mine is going to get ridden!

As Ed pointed out the frame is un-touched from original (was restored to original colours a few years ago), and to swap everything out for other parts is a pretty quick job.

Oh and it rides very nicely...
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Old 1st July 2009   #4174
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what's wrong with putting new parts on an old frame?

if the bike fits and runs well, how can it be a problem?

this is worthy of people's criticism? yet every day we see hundreds of badly fitting clown-bikes or track bikes sporting parts designed for completely different styles of riding, or bikes with one brake and a freewheel, or just plain dangerous, all because the colours match or someone wants to make a half-baked attempt at making something with 700c wheels look like a BMX.

you wallys
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Old 1st July 2009   #4175
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I think it's down to this being an aesthetically driven thread not a functionality driven thread.
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Old 1st July 2009   #4176
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good point
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Old 1st July 2009   #4177
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Probably a repost but...

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Old 1st July 2009   #4178
el squire
 
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Lovely.
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Old 1st July 2009   #4179
RPM
 
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what's that? Lance trying to do a Mario?
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Old 1st July 2009   #4180
madillnessdonor
 
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is that marker pen?
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Old 1st July 2009   #4181
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Shepherd Fairey getting sucked into the Lance machine.
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Old 1st July 2009   #4182
madillnessdonor
 
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fuck off.... are you serious...
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Old 1st July 2009   #4183
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Yezzir, that bike was done for Lance for the Giro this year I believe. If you look at the top of the seat stay it has that star with andre the giants face and at the side of the head tube it has his little obey tag, which I use in the loosest terms.
http://collectiveco.blogspot.com/200...ey-x-trek.html
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Old 1st July 2009   #4184
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>.>
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Old 1st July 2009   #4185
Rossy
 
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Oppps, I jumped the gun then! Turns out it's just a toy thank god
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Old 1st July 2009   #4186
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either way you did the right thing.
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Old 1st July 2009   #4187
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Straight from the classifieds...

http://static.lfgss.com/attachm...3-photo-1-.jpg
I saw a geezer with a full arm tattoo riding this bike through Braintree the other day. If you are on here then PM me, would be good to talk about a local drinks/ride thing...
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Old 1st July 2009   #4188
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A straight-stayed Hetchins with basic (for a Hetchins) lug work hardly counts as either rare or classic. What's the alternative, anyway? Spending months and hundreds of pounds sourcing period correct parts so you can enter it in Concours d'Elegance competitions, and then not wanting to ride it because you'll wear out your precious Chater-Lea chainring.
+1.
I use whatever I can afford/find to make my bikes as close to how I want them as possible, I ultimately am the one to ride my bikes and my enjoyment of them is mostly in the riding and not the worrying about whether I have offended someone with my choice of parts.
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Old 1st July 2009   #4189
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+1.
I use whatever I can afford/find to make my bikes as close to how I want them as possible, I ultimately am the one to ride my bikes and my enjoyment of them is mostly in the riding and not the worrying about whether I have offended someone with my choice of parts.
Exactly!
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Old 1st July 2009   #4190
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I saw a geezer with a full arm tattoo riding this bike through Braintree the other day. If you are on here then PM me, would be good to talk about a local drinks/ride thing...
Be quick. Given the set up, he might not be around long.
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Old 1st July 2009   #4191
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Exactly!
Seems us older riders have less of a sense of fashion about us, which I like.
Are you John Peel really?
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Old 1st July 2009   #4192
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Be quick. Given the set up, he might not be around long.
I don't mind this bike, wouldn't choose it for myself but it was being ridden and that's what counts.
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Old 1st July 2009   #4193
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I don't mind this bike, wouldn't choose it for myself but it was being ridden and that's what counts.
I was referring to the lack of rear brake/foot retention, not suggesting that Pista riders were fly by night.
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Old 1st July 2009   #4194
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I was referring to the lack of rear brake/foot retention, not suggesting that Pista riders were fly by night.
If safety is your concern then I reckon the first thing he could do is take his iPod off whilst riding:(
Just by sheer coincidence I saw him at exactly the same junction which saw me get sideswiped by angry motorist a few years ago whilst on my De Rosa(Fortunately only the bike and not me got damaged) and images of bike/car accidents did flash before my eyes.

Last edited by Porter Pearson; 1st July 2009 at 19:43.
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Old 2nd July 2009   #4195
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I'll just leave this here.
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Old 2nd July 2009   #4196
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Silly boy.
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Old 2nd July 2009   #4197
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very silly
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Old 2nd July 2009   #4198
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completly non-sense
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Old 2nd July 2009   #4199
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Aesthetically speaking it's not to everyone's taste (just like every other bike in these threads).

I'm not a huge fan of the brown/gold or the sloping top-tube of the Brooklyn frame but that said I admire the utilitarian aspect and the sheer bike geekery on show. On the whole, I like the bike but not necessarily for the way it looks.
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