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Old 23rd November 2007   #51
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Thoughts: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130175167601&ssPageNam e=ADME:B:DBS:GB:1123
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Old 24th November 2007   #52
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Hippy, friend of mine and myself have bought many lenses from Aperture for pro use and both happy. They rate the quality of them, and it's pretty easy to tell if a pro has used them cause as Mr Smith rightly says - they'll be battered!

Oh, and if you pay in cash you can haggle with them ;-)


Get that sigma.
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Old 24th November 2007   #53
Maxwell Duryea
Well from a profesional standpoint, you get what you pay for. Simple as that. Just like with bikes, and most anything. Depending on if you have already invested on lenses or not, you will go with Nikon or Canon for a DSLR. Point and shoot cameras are a bit different. I am a professional photographer and have been shooting for nearly three years now. I have used both Nikon and Canon for my daily work, and i have to say that Canon is a bit better. Glass is usually sharper, cameras are easier to navigate, and usually the colors are more brilliant and it takes better shots in low light. It used to be that Canon was the one way in front, but Nikon has started to bridge that gap with the release of their d200, d300 and some new lens'. Its really up to you, your preference, and what you like. I have a Canon 40D, a Canon 1D, and a Panasonic DMC-FX12, and its truly an excellent camera. I do a lot of work with it, and clients wouldnt know the difference. For some occasions, (strobe work, use of WA, telophot, action...so on...) you would need a DSLR, but for events such as getting into places where huge DSLR's are not allowed, a point and shoot is the best thing you have to work with. The Panasonic i have has been beat around for nearly a year, not too concerned about it because i have my other two primary Canon cameras. Its held up to a lot. Unless you plan on doing a lot of work with it and need the specialties of a DSLR, i would purchase a point and shoot. The Cybershot S70 is a good one, as well as Casio Exlim. Canon's Elph series is probably one of the best, and closest to a DSLR. Its more expensive, and even more here in Britain.

If you are dead set on a DSLR, get the 40d or the Nikon d200. either is great, but i have the 40d and can say its truly amazing. Shares a lot of the features found in the new MArk three, for a fifth of the price!

If ya need any more help, just ask.
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Old 25th November 2007   #54
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I was completely set on my Nikon F3 SLR + Sensia 100 for 12 years.
I then got a digital Leica C-Lux. The quality is so outstanding that I take all my pictures
with it and even started to like the 800x426 30fps videos in prestine quality.
No need for a DSLR in my eyes.
Some of my pictures on http://www.bregler.net
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Old 25th November 2007   #55
dr.oblong
i bought a digi-compact this summer after checking dpreview. the only compact they had in the "highly recommend' category at the time was the...
fuji finepix f31fd (c.135gbp august)
as i was in a rush i went to jessops (who are crap) to buy it. oh shit, they not only had this camera but also the updated version (f40 i think). so i took some photos on both and without doubt the f31 was way better (despite less pixels).
the camera is excellent for the simple reason that if you take pics in anything other than good daylight (i know you are going on a skiing trip but you may want to use it elsewhere after) you can change iso upto 1600 without the excessive noise you will get on cameras that are much more expensive (ie, ricoh, leica, panasonic etc). and at 400 iso the photos rock. check dpreview for anything you are considering as they are very comprehensive in their testing. they've added the canon g9 to the H.R. list but it is a bigger more expensive camera.

i checked the other day and the f31 is available now for just over 100gbp and is "the nearest thing to a modern classic that a digital compact is going to be". which is cool, because it looks crap.
if you really want the worry and the attention that a dslr will give you then the starter options are the canon 400d(?) or the nikon d40x. i've still got my fe2 and fm with ai lenses so not felt the need myself.

all the best.

dr.
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Old 25th November 2007   #56
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A friend and my brother-in-law both have the Canon 400D and I have used it at my nieces christening for them it is an excellent user friendly camera, unfortuneately out of my price range.

I have been borrowing cameras since mine packed up the day before the TDF and I'm looking at a compact replacement with this in mind Panasonic DMC-FX10 what are the experts opinion on that??
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Old 10th December 2007   #57
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I've had my eye on the Panasonic Lumix's for a little while, especially right now as I know someone in the states this week. I don't really want to spend more than 200£ now. Originally I was thinking about something which had a bit more of an SLR feel to it, because in the past I haven't liked tiny point and shoots which can be annoying to hold. But this thread seems to be advising against that.

Anyone else have anything to say about the panasonics or something equivalent?
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Old 10th December 2007   #58
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These are pretty good if you're looking for a point and shoot -

http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=777_1&products_id=102475

None in stock at 7 day shop, but check other places, you should be able to pick one up for a shade under £200

7 day shop are almost unbeatable for memory cards, FYI...

The Canon G9 at around £300 is amazing.
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Old 10th December 2007   #59
runcible rakan
 
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G9 comes out a bit over 200 on amazon in the US.

Anyone know any sites in the US which are good for electronic stuff and likely to be cheaper than Amazon?
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Old 10th December 2007   #60
MrSmyth
you will pay import tax (duty) and vat plus a processing fee from the carrier if you buy from the usa.
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Old 10th December 2007   #61
runcible rakan
 
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I know someone in NYC this week who i can get it shipped too
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Old 10th December 2007   #62
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http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=Pentax+/+*ist+DS&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

I have one of these and bulletproof it is, it caught on my handle bars when i was rummaging in my bag and got literally flung across the road. the only thing that is wrong is a little corner of the lcd has 'bled'. i got it cause i have pentax manual lens, but its got a great lens with it and they seem cheap now too.

Also a tip: put your camera in a plastic bag, ziploc one would be great *before you go back inside. It'll stop the lens, chip, viewfinder fogging, sort of like a climate chamber.
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Old 11th December 2007   #63
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runcible rakan:I've had my eye on the Panasonic Lumix's for a little while, especially right now as I know someone in the states this week. I don't really want to spend more than 200£ now. Originally I was thinking about something which had a bit more of an SLR feel to it, because in the past I haven't liked tiny point and shoots which can be annoying to hold. But this thread seems to be advising against that.

Anyone else have anything to say about the panasonics or something equivalent?
I'm on my second Panny. I have the LX2, previously the LX1.

Highly recommended.
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Old 11th December 2007   #64
MrSmyth
"Well from a profesional standpoint, you get what you pay for. Simple as that."

so what do amateurs get for their money? less? or more?

:-)
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Old 11th December 2007   #65
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i was in Best Buy in New York last week and they had the Canon 400D for $525 with 18-55mm(?) lens - if you knw someone in NYC ask them to buy it for you maybe and then ship it personally?
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Old 11th December 2007   #66
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runcible rakan:I've had my eye on the Panasonic Lumix's for a little while, especially right now as I know someone in the states this week. I don't really want to spend more than 200£ now. Originally I was thinking about something which had a bit more of an SLR feel to it, because in the past I haven't liked tiny point and shoots which can be annoying to hold. But this thread seems to be advising against that.

Anyone else have anything to say about the panasonics or something equivalent?
The Lumix is great. The best compact I've ever had.
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Old 11th December 2007   #67
runcible rakan
 
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Thanks everybody... im going to try and decide tonight ;)
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Old 11th December 2007   #68
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I'm in the process of getting something for my missus for Christmas - after trying to subtly ask her photo questions the G9 is probably out of the running due to it's size - it's no brick by any means, but too big to put in a pocket (approx 100mmx70mmx40mm). Might be worth considering if you're going to ride with it a lot.

I think I'm gonna get her the Panasonic, or the Canon Ixus 70

Good luck!
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Old 11th December 2007   #69
runcible rakan
 
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Which Panasonic were you thinking of Sano?
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Old 11th December 2007   #70
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Ixus be nice.
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Old 11th December 2007   #71
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This one.... Mmmmm... Leica lens... mmmmm

http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=777_1&products_id=103296

Ixus be nice, for sure. My flatmate has one and it's a cracking little camera
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Old 11th December 2007   #72
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My friend in Aus had this little beauty.



Samsung NV7.
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Old 17th December 2007   #73
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skoota:http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=Pentax+/+*ist+DS&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

I have one of these and bulletproof it is, it caught on my handle bars when i was rummaging in my bag and got literally flung across the road. the only thing that is wrong is a little corner of the lcd has 'bled'. i got it cause i have pentax manual lens, but its got a great lens with it and they seem cheap now too.

Also a tip: put your camera in a plastic bag, ziploc one would be great *before you go back inside. It'll stop the lens, chip, viewfinder fogging, sort of like a climate chamber.
Hmm i'm looking at the pentax k100d super at the moment, mainly because it's cheap and Cnet recommends it. I haven't found anything about the ist ds, i think it might have been discontinued?
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Old 17th December 2007   #74
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i've been a photography student, and i'd highly recommend not bothering with DSLRs.

I have a 10 megapixel Canon powershot A640. bloody brilliant. It has this large flip out screen so you can get pictures in all sorts of places that you would never get an SLR.
It takes a while, but once you're used to the settings and how you can fiddle with it, I think it gives you almost all the stuff that an SLR can do: I often use it to take long exposures of stars, and other nighttime stuff, and get great results: it has a maximum of 15 second exposure, and you can change the "film speed" from ISO 80 to 800, and you can even change the flash output. In the manual function you can change the shutter speed to anything you like, from 15 seconds to 1/2500 and the appature from f.2.8 to f.8.0

it even makes AVI movies of a really good quality!

the focus is amazing too: i can focus perfectly on objects as close as 1cm. and it's got 4xoptical zoom.

it's quite compact: fits in a pocket, but is a bit weighty: it takes 4 aa batterys, but this means it's really reliable unlike a lot of other point and shoots.

I'll shut up now.
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Old 17th December 2007   #75
webby
if you do choose canon, then never forget to check their own ebay store.

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Canon-Outlet

as you were.
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Old 17th December 2007   #76
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I am pretty sure the video function of the DMC-L1K/C-Lux 1 taking 848x400 @30fps can not be excelled by any other compact camera. it is so handy and most importantly very inconspicuous.
I took the cambridge ride & Roller Race vids with it.
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Old 17th December 2007   #77
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well yes, the cannon i've mentioned above only does 640x480 @30fps

liked the film by the way! and I was just wondering what type of camera it was shot with: lovely colours.
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Old 17th December 2007   #78
runcible rakan
 
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I ended up buying the Canon G9 and Panasonic FX33. They are coming back from the US today so going to go and have a look, will probably end up selling the fx33.

Cheers for the help everyone :)
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Old 21st December 2007   #79
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I went for a Canon A570is in the end, Park Cameras seemed to be the cheapest deal :)
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Old 22nd December 2007   #80
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I've not read all this thread but my advice to ppl wanting a digi cam is:

Canon
Canon
Canon
Canon
Canon
Canon


I've got a compact and a dSLR and both of them are awesome and feel (imo) nicer than most non-canons I've used.

Also this guy on ebay: http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Canon-Outlet (link fixed) sells refurbished Canons direct from Canon. I got my dSLR this way and paid £200 quid less than in the shops. It's brand new but is a customer return (fixed thankfully). Although at the moment he has no stock I'm sure there will be plenty in the new year though.
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Old 22nd December 2007   #81
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webby:if you do choose canon, then never forget to check their own ebay store.

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Canon-Outlet

as you were.
lol I really should read up 10 posts or so.

Well consider my post a 2nd opinion.
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Old 22nd December 2007   #82
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tallsam: Although at the moment he has no stock I'm sure there will be plenty in the new year though.
He's not got anything available as I logged on from Australian eBay. Doh.
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Old 3rd January 2008   #83
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I got given this camera for Christmas. Very impressed by it's capabilties ;-)
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Old 3rd January 2008   #84
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Now that is just fcking awesome...
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Old 3rd January 2008   #85
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Elvis:400d for an entry level canon dslr. the stock lens is pants though

d50 for nikon. good basic dslr with decent 18-55 (?) lens.
d80 with the 18-70 if you can stretch that far. brilliant camera and excellent lens.
just ordered a d80 with 2 lenses for $800 US. i love after xmas sales.

what slopes you hitting? i just went riding for the first time in 4 or 5 years, it was great, i could rember every thing bu the basics. i had the jumps and some of my old tricks down, but couldn't turn for shit.
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Old 3rd January 2008   #86
åsm
argh if that actually worked as a camera i'd buy one right now!!!!
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Old 3rd January 2008   #87
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runcible rakan:I ended up buying the Canon G9 and Panasonic FX33
Hey Rakan - which one did you keep? My bloody Mum got the G9 for Christmas - I was jealous. I got my girlfriend the Ixus 75, she's over the moon...

Now to buy myself a new frame for being a good boy...
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Old 16th February 2008   #88
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By the way guys I bought the G9, it is amazing!
Thanks for all the help. muchos love.
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Old 16th February 2008   #89
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+1 for G9 luvvin'. Missed the start of the thread: sorry.
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Old 22nd May 2008   #90
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Just snapped up a Canon Ixus70 from their ebay outlet store for the bargain price of £75 thanks to the helpful info on here.
Aah, the wonders of "search"...
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Old 3rd June 2009   #91
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Which digital SLR?

I know nothing about real photography in all honesty but quite fancy taking some better shots, particularly macro. Budget £300 - 400 all in - speculative at moment - don't have the moolah at the moment. Any reccomendations?

Saw this - any good for entry level?

http://www.warehouseexpress.com/prod...px?sku=1030429
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Old 3rd June 2009   #92
blackdog
Anything by Canon or Nikon. go and handle a few to see which fit best in your hands.
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Old 3rd June 2009   #93
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Personally I use Canon... but it's a very personal choice on SLR's, so definitely go test them :)
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Old 3rd June 2009   #94
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STOP

from what you describe you know little about photography, a DSLR is wrong for you. Buy a bridge camera such as a canon G10, Fuji S7000 etc... this will serve your needs.

If you want to take macro shots after the initial investment into the camera you will have to pay a LOT of money for a macro lens.

Nick
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Old 3rd June 2009   #95
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an SLR won't take better photos for you, you have to know what you're doing.

a bridge camera will.

good macro photography starts with atleast equipment worth over £1000
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Old 3rd June 2009   #96
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Oh any DSLR will be fine mate, just get whichever appeal to you.

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from what you describe you know little about photography, a DSLR is wrong for you. Buy a bridge camera such as a canon G10, Fuji S7000 etc... this will serve your needs.
mate, since when DSLR are only for pro/amateur? there's plenty of DSLR out there for people who just want to take picture, like Nikon D60, Olympus E420, Pentax K-m, etc.
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Old 3rd June 2009   #97
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The thing is, if you plan to spend more money in the future on photography, buy new lenses/update equipment etc. an SLR will be very much worth investing in.

If not you'll be wasting (your need) value for money.
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Old 3rd June 2009   #98
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If not you'll be wasting (your need) value for money.
You mean I shouldn't have brought my sister a Nikon D40 with stock zoom lens in the first place because she'll never buy new lenses and never use the Nikon to it's full potential because i's always on Auto?? shit man, you're right, I could've gotten her a shitty digital compact instead!
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Old 3rd June 2009   #99
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Oh any DSLR will be fine mate, just get whichever appeal to you.



mate, since when DSLR are only for pro/amateur? there's plenty of DSLR out there for people who just want to take picture, like Nikon D60, Olympus E420, Pentax K-m, etc.
I am not saying that they are exclusively for pro/amateaur what I am saying is that he will learn a lot more from a bridge camera which can mimic a large array of lenses than what he will from a DSLR with an 18-55mm standard lens, which is all he will get with that budget, a Canon G10 is a stunning alternative which will take images similar to the standard of a DSLR.
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Old 3rd June 2009   #100
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At that budget, even the cheapest DSLR is enough for a person who just want to take photos, like the Olympus E-420 with zoom lens for under £300.
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