London Fixed-gear and Single-speed

I've just received this--note appeal for witnesses. Very sad.

very sad, hope that witnesses do come forward

Very sad, my feelings go to this danish family.
RIP

Wow, cant believe this was the result of a cyclist impact.
Ive passed the fatality sign on the road for the past week or so and had no clue.

RIP

Sad indeed.

heartfelt sympathy to the family.

Awful. RIP.

This is sad. I've only just seen this. Utmost sympathy to the family.

New development:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8577612.stm

Sorry if this is a repost, but the cyclist has now been charged by the police:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8577612.stm

Argh, we're reading the news at the same time.

Spooky!

Cripe, there's no excuse for that to happen, RIP to the poor lady.

Notice how if a cyclist knocks someone down and kills them it's manslaughter?
And if a motorist does it, even deliberately, it's a traffic offence. Or maybe nothing at all.

Mr BQ, I was wondering what happened for the manslaughter charge, but I'm not sure this thread is the best place to disuss it.

RIP pedestrian.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/low/england/london/8577612.stm

This is terrible. Any bets he was brakless??

I'd love to know why he was charged with manslaughter.



Edit misunderstood arrested for charged

It does say 'at the junction'.... a bit more detail..... http://www.camdengazette.co.uk/conte...2013:10:35:103

Oh just small point, but important.. currently he has been arrested... not charged. So investigation etc. will be ongoing.

Dunno.

I don't understand why you'd want to cycle without at least one calliper brake, even if on fixed.

uh oh....

neil

that kind of crazy/sensible talk will get you attacked round here

though you are right

Sorry wonder why the cyclists was arrested on suspicion of manslaughter

He killed somebody, for a start. If he could be shown to be cycling recklessly, that would go some way towards manslaughter.

Sorry have i missed something, can't see a reference to brakes in either of the articles, just recklessness.

No detail = No commment, non?

Well usually by killing someone would get him arrested.

Frankly, it's manslaughter alright when you're riding a bicycle with umpteen senario to prevent an untimely death of a mother.

1+

the news is going to go crazy on that.

Lack of facts = Load of bollocks...
Other than knowing that a woman died due to injuries sustained after a cyclist collided with her while crossing a road, what else do we have? Sweet zip... Maybe the cyclist did jump a red light? Maybe he had no brakes? Maybe the poor woman wasn't looking where she was going? Who knows?
Until we do know what actually happened it's pointless to start slinging blame around/create scenarios...

@ Lynx, The OP and the BBC report state involuntary manslaughter.

As I take it from Wiki, this is less culpable than voluntary manslaughter. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manslau...y_manslaughter

Maybe he was riding a dual suspension mountain bike.

The difference is that a cyclist have umpteen senario to avoid such collison whether a 4+ wheels motorised vehicle doesn't.

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that, young Ed, is a crock of shit…

until you know the facts of the 'scenario' you have absolutely no idea whether the incident could have been avoided

fuck me Ed - do you even ride a bike?

the two offs I've had involved peddos running, yup running, directly into my path from the pavement

pray tell in your experience what my umpteen scenarios are in this instance

There are a range of offences specific to people in motor vehicles, such as causing death by dangerous driving, which tend to get invoked in parallel cases. That's part of the reason you won't hear about manslaughter as much with drivers.

quite right, best to leave it till we hear more about the collsion.

Silly cucumber boy.

The details from that (because URLs to local news sites tend to break after a while):

So even the po-po don't know what happened...

I think they always appeal for witnesses after such events whether or not the believe they know what happened.

He should be shot to maim then burn him at the stake until he is medium rare but still alive then drown him in acid for riding a square wheeled unipak fixie skidder with fake arrospoks and skinny jeans on his ipod whilst jumping lights swearing at peds and smoking roll ups!


It's the press all over really, adding speculation into the mix my mentioning light jumping and speeding. the rest goes to those who look at the words and don't take it in to be re-told later.


Tis very sad but how many times people walk out without looking?! i saw a woman do it near bond st, she ignored me but also ignored the van coming around me, i slowed up he didn't she flew up into the air, she even had to stop her phone conversation.
Funny she didn't have a go at the Van, but if i had hit her she would have had a go at me. they don't like cyclist veering from the rules of the highway, curse us for jumping lights or cycling on the pavements. but then ignore us when we are on the roads. or expect us to cycling into oncoming traffic to get around them when they decided to cross.... double standards... they are as bad as cyclists

Squarrospoks.

the more witness the better.

like the Renault that got caught on the bumper of an HGV, police reopen the investigation due to more evidence.

dont forget she was from denmark. she probably looked the wrong way when crossing the street, I know I have a few times.

if he indeed was reckless or jumped a red, it was bad luck that the lady died but it is in fact his responsability...if she crossed without looking or when it was red, its not his fault but he will have to deal with this for a long time anyway

shit situation.

what depresses me the most, that you open any news source and you see "kill kill kill murder murder murder"

the truth is: if he was brakeless, there's a shitstorm coming your way.

Im always looking out for pedestirains on the road and my front break has saved me on more than one occassion. I would like the bike courier who called me a faker as i stepped out my front door the other day to read this article.

There's some ill informed shit on this thread. Wait until the facts are known, if ever, before leaping to conclusions.

In the meantime, my thoughts are with the family of this poor woman.